95 Suburban Overall
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Ok here is the gig.. Had a guy approach me tonight about re painting his 95 subby complete.. Looking for a color change.. Let me say up front, I dont care if I get the job or not to be honest, although the extra money is always nice..
Since this truck is a monster, I need some input on what you guys think I should charge?? Im not sure on what to charge for a truck like this with all the jambs etc having to be painted also..
I told him I would not even consider it for any less than $4000 and he jumped all over that price.. I told him I would have to crunch the numbers and see what I would come up with..
he wants it gun metal metallic
Like Ford code UJ on these new F250’s we are painting..
So what is a good price for this job?? Evidently $4000 is not nearly enough :rofl
I’d up it $5 to $4005, that would be just about right.
That way you can still be making less than minimum wage. 😛How many weeks would it take you to get it done? How much money do you want to make a week? If you want to bring home $800 a week while on this job figure out how long it will take you, add a week or two, add your materials and you have a price. I know its not real scientific but it seems to work out pretty good most of the time.
If you don’t care if you get the job I would say $6000-7000. Also don’t start pricing low it will hurt you in the end. If you told the guy around $9000 then came back with $6500 he would think he was getting a deal!
At work I write estimates sometimes. When a job rolls in that I want I try to sell. When a job comes in that I don’t want I will still sell a little, but I will load the estimate. You would be surprised how many of those we will actually get.
BTW, that would be a pain in the ass to do all over!
6 grand min see what he does then 6k is a screaming deal for that job
Your talking about a lot of work jambs too your crazy cheap 4k wear were you before I built my booth? :huh:
What about body work?Don’t forget about all the interior parts that have to be painted as well :S
I wouldnt even bid this job.. If he was crying about 4k he doesnt have a clue! Run though my computer it runs right about 10k w/ really no body work.. You can decide from their.. That will be a ton of work, and is your garage big enough to handle painting it?
BK, the way you do your work, it should be north of 8g’s easy. That’s a LOT of surface area to cover
more than twice that of the stang you’re currently working on. And it takes up a ridiculous amount
of space too. And you’d probably have to rig up an outdoor canopy/booth.And if it’s a customer you don’t know very well, be sure to get half up front. And if he jumped on 4g’s,
then he has shopped around or KNOWS what’s involved. That’s actually a good thing.If i had to crunch the numbers – with minor body work – i’d probably get around 2g’s in materials
and around 7g’s in labor (exterior only). Also factoring in around 50 hours of sanding and buffing (for me). Ball park..
Although you’re not a shop, you should be charging shop prices because of the way you do your work.Cool guys I appreciate the info… :pcorn:
I know my pricing has gotten low.. I used to charge really well for everything I did, even when I would do an occasional collision repair.. When the economy took a really good dump a while back, my business came to a hault.. I lost customers who tried their best to get me to come down on show work yada yada yada..
When I finally started getting business again is when I dropped my prices lower than what I would have ever worked for before.. With tough times and being laid off 31 weeks last year I put myself in the mindset that “a little money was better than no money”..
I agree I have been pricing my work waaaay to low.. Also could be I hang around that old guy Jim Clark.. Hell he uses toilet paper instead of paper towels in his garage and the same mixing pail for years and years :roflIm gonna run the price thru the roof and leave it at that.. I almost told him $6000 last night just to even consider it like i did with the 4 gs, but I wimped out and went low… CRAP… I GOTTA QUIT HANGIN OUT WITH OLD CHEAP GUYS :wak
I’ve learned never to just give a ballpark. thats usually when you underprice it and kick yourself. always tell them you need to figure out your costs and you’ll get back to them. no matter how much they pressure you for that rough bid. the guy will have 4k in his mind now and no matter what you tell him from here on out thats all he’ll want to pay. of course you could tell him it was just 4k for the outside. all the jambs will cost him another $2500;)
[b]BondoKing wrote:[/b]
[quote]… CRAP… I GOTTA QUIT HANGIN OUT WITH OLD CHEAP GUYS :wak[/quote]I’ve been telling you that for years.
Don’t hang out with old people……………..I don’t.Price the job at whatever its worth to you. If you can do it at $4000 and take satisfaction in the money/hr your making then go for it. I think you should definitely bump it up a little but I can’t see anyone dumping 8 or 9 g’s into a 95 suburban. I’d try for at least $6000. If you have other work coming in then tell him 8 or 9 and if he goes for it great, if not no worries. We’ve done fleet work, like those cop car color changes for $1500-$2000 & still made some money doing them, not a pile but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do to keep the doors open.
What’s the body like on this thing anyhow?
Funny story on the last suburban I priced. Guy wanted a complete and I looked it over and said you’d probably be looking somewhere between 5-6. He got real excited and said alright when can you do it? I don’t even mind paying the high end, 6 hundred is a good deal! After an awkward pause I informed him we weren’t talking in the hundreds, I never ended up closing that deal.
Something to think about, try and find a kid or someone to give you a hand with it. If you could get $5000-6000 for the job, pay some kid $150 to scuff all the jambs, clean it up and mask it wouldn’t be to bad. He would have a little cash in his pocket and the real crappy part of the job would be over.
There are probably a few ways that you could work this deal and not come out to bad. I have a helper at work that would probably be up for something like that. Hell he could even help prep a lot of it. Think smarter don’t work harder.
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]Price the job at whatever its worth to you. If you can do it at $4000 and take satisfaction in the money/hr your making then go for it. I think you should definitely bump it up a little but I can’t see anyone dumping 8 or 9 g’s into a 95 suburban. I’d try for at least $6000. If you have other work coming in then tell him 8 or 9 and if he goes for it great, if not no worries. We’ve done fleet work, like those cop car color changes for $1500-$2000 & still made some money doing them, not a pile but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do to keep the doors open.What’s the body like on this thing anyhow?
Funny story on the last suburban I priced. Guy wanted a complete and I looked it over and said you’d probably be looking somewhere between 5-6. He got real excited and said alright when can you do it? I don’t even mind paying the high end, 6 hundred is a good deal! After an awkward pause I informed him we weren’t talking in the hundreds, I never ended up closing that deal.[/quote]
5-6 hundred :exci :exci :exci :exci :wak :wak :rofl :lol1 :lol1 :lol1
Just me but no way I would do it for 4k… 6k ok, 5k and he buys all the materials. final offer!
Heck your gonna need two gals of every thing!!!! Not to mention the amount of tape and Sandpaper.hmmmmmm
$500 per panel … I count 13 with rocker so 500 x 13 = $6500 should keep you in the profit side :huh:
i hate ta say it but that formula sounds like it works 😉
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