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  • January 23, 2011 at 2:32 am #27545

    [quote=”bondomerchant” post=17464][quote=”MoCoke” post=17463]the black sealer is gonna throw ur color off and cost you a lot of color. better to buy some light gray sealer or a buff color preferably then it is to buy and apply so much base.[/quote]
    good advice moke:cheers :cheers :cheers sealer is cheaper than base[/quote]

    cheaper, quicker and less of a chance of trapped solvents from all those extra coats of base.

    If you have a black and white spray out card, spray that when you check your colour. You will know how many coats to hide after that…

    January 23, 2011 at 2:45 am #27546

    I disagree,when… if ever have you sprayed black and white checkerboard sealer:silly: Spray the color of sealer you are going to use on the spray out card first then apply your basecoat , you will know the true number of coats you need for coverage and to check color match.Sometimes the color of sealer can cause a difference but really coverage is coverage.

    January 23, 2011 at 3:37 am #27547

    while sanding some bondo and thinking about this, i remember ford golds used to have a red oxide color primer underneath :stoned

    January 23, 2011 at 3:50 am #27549

    [quote=”Jayson M” post=17471]I disagree,when… if ever have you sprayed black and white checkerboard sealer:silly: Spray the color of sealer you are going to use on the spray out card first then apply your basecoat , you will know the true number of coats you need for coverage and to check color match.Sometimes the color of sealer can cause a difference but really coverage is coverage.[/quote]

    I always spray my sealer in a black and white checker board pattern, what kind of crazy sealer are you using??? :rofl

    The concept is simply coverage…if the base hides black and hides white, it should hide anything (so long as bleed through is not an issue).

    January 23, 2011 at 5:05 am #27551

    Geez Ben you are starting to sound like the Captain….no sh!t it’s about coverage.You missed my point,when doing a color check with a transparent color, a checkerboard sprayout card isn’t going to show you d!ck except it takes 5 coats to get coverage.If you use the same color sealer on the card while you are doing the job you will get a more accurate idea of how many coats for covearge and colormatch. :p

    You are absolutely right about red oxide mo,I try to duplicate the same color sealer that the factory uses,works very well. :clappy

    January 23, 2011 at 5:51 am #27552

    I have to go with jayson on this one. Sprayouts should be sealed the same color that you are doing the car. How many coats to coverage doesn’t mean that much. I have seen silvers cover a sprayout but still be a little lighter than the sealed counterpart. There is such a thing as getting percieved coverage without reaching the correct color value yet. Your spray out should mimic exactly what your doing on the car.

    January 23, 2011 at 8:38 pm #27562

    Well, it looks like I got b1tch slapped! :rofl

    :cheers

    January 24, 2011 at 2:10 am #27571

    All in good fun Benny 😉

    January 25, 2011 at 1:06 am #27594

    well now we’re back to finding a source of the stuff…

    the only way I get sealer in town is in gallons, and it’s the martin senour garbage I totally hate…

    January 25, 2011 at 2:31 am #27604

    You don’t know what you’re talking about Bob! :chair
    CS293 is the shiznit.

    January 25, 2011 at 12:38 pm #27610

    I had a bad experience…. Consistently I have had mediocre to crappy results and lots of issues with MS stuff, so whether it’s good or not I’m going to whine about it while I shoot the diarrhea they call paint 😡

    January 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm #27613

    [quote=”bobwires” post=17532]I had a bad experience…. Consistently I have had mediocre to crappy results and lots of issues with MS stuff, so whether it’s good or not I’m going to whine about it while I shoot the diarrhea they call paint :x[/quote]
    ur starting ta make me think ya dont like ol martin manure:whistle: :whistle:

    January 26, 2011 at 1:49 am #27616

    We punish traitors around these here parts! :hunt

    Yeah, Martin Manure has a lot of crap. (Like CP400 Epoxy, omfg Dog shit dries out faster than that crap.) :deadhorse
    But the CS293 really is a good sealer.

    January 26, 2011 at 5:25 am #27624

    well that’s the only sealer I’ve got! I’ll give it another shot with something resembling optimism.

    thanks

    :cheers

    January 26, 2011 at 5:40 am #27625

    try some transtar sealer.

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