Any one used de beer clear ?
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Just got a set of de beer 80-121 clear,and spray couple cars today. The job comes out very good,good shine and smooth. But solven pop :S on the hood. I’m sure I got enough flash time and touch it with finger.any idea?
Hello, Debeer 121 is a good low voc clear. 2.1 voc. I have used about 10 kits of the product and also went thru their training program in Texas on the 900. 121 is mixed 3 to 1 to 10% percent.Maybe 15%.Not 3 to 1 to 1. You can call randy at the Valspar training center in fort worth,to confrim.Under ICRS which is Debeer computer program,go under product info. And look at 121 . The info clearly states 3 to 1 to 10%. If you go to Debeers web site and type in 121 in their search bar you will see the tds. An my info is correct.
So hopefully you just had too much reducer? I have never had it solvent pop. It has a really long flash after first coat. I would say 10 to 15 min at 70° to 80° with 161 or 171 reducers and no production activator.Those are the only reducers I would use for more than one panel and in a booth. Imho. It is a pretty fast clear.i use it on the regular, yes if you follow the tech sheet it says to mix it 3:1:1 with the production additiive or reducer, its fine mixing it that way but spray your first coat medium wet, let it flash fully, and the spray your second coat full wet. it wont sag on u or pop, but even if it does it buffs very well after just few hours. doesnt dieback either. good luck
i was just informed that the tech sheet was wrong and to call texas randy to confirm that 😆
To much to soon. Need to let flash longer and get the air moving so the solvents can escape.
thx all ! I really love this clear! Second gallon today and the job always A1! But the pop,chould it be I load up too much?
Yes, to much to fast can lead to a solvent pop. Some clears are more prone than others.
Using a hardener/activator that is too fast for the job at hand will also cause pop.
I don’t think the hardener is too fast because 15minutes flash time the clear still feeling wet. But if I spray the same thickness with more flash time works? And how long do u wait for bake? What I normally do is 3:1:10% 15minutes flash then second coat then 5 mins flash then bake 80 degrees for spray 140 bake
How long are you baking for?
Have you tried baking without flahsing? Your clear might be skinning over
In this case,with clear 80-121 there is only one hardner its 190. I have pounded this clear on with Sata’s rp 1.4 tips and two full wetcoats back to back on front clips and still never gott solvent pop. If your still wet after your frist coat and 15 min.. Try using a faster reducer or maybe trying 5% reducer and 5% production additive mix or turning your fan speed up. If you can turn it up. Just because you have the best most expensive booth out there dosnt always mean your going to flow the most air. I have baked this clear with no flash and with a 15 min flash and still did not have a solvent pop. Sum dye back sure. I was told thru Debeer training there is no flash with bake. But dosnt seen to hurt it too much if you do let it flash. Maybe give the one visit application a shot and see how it works for you. Debeer tech sheet on 121 says a half coat followed with no flash by a full coat.
Are u serious?back to back full wet coat with no flash time?it only have one hardener and I use medium reducer
No he said one visit application which means a half coat(means super thin closed coat which has no dry areas,you have to be close and fast with the gun) and then a nice full wet coat.If you pound on 2 wet coats you will have more trouble.
lol I have try the one visit and cause run.not a big run like under the handle or sensor. :p
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