Anyone heard of a paint brand called Pro Spray
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We had a new jobber open up in town and thats what they are selling and just wondering if anyone has heard anything about it or used it. The sale rep was telling me that they have 3 different lines of paint but they are on the same machine but the difference is the binders in each line of paint and also said the water base is very close to PPG envirobase.
I’ve never used the stuff before…There is a local supplier here. There were several shops using it about 5 years ago, but I don’t think very many use it anymore. I heard mixed reviews, some products are awesome, and others are awful. Colour matching was acceptable, but not great.
I use there am tech 4200 clear all the time for cheaper jobs and it works Great haven’t tried any of there base but heard solid colors are good and the metallic have little problem matching. They seem to have good clears and primers
Thanks for the input guys
If it’s the same Pro Spray as we get in the UK then I’ve used it on occasion, and the products I’ve used were good for the price. Solvent base covered well and the colour matching was good enough on the limited number of jobs I’ve done. The single stage is something else though. I’ve done two jobs in solid red, a Peugeot 205 and a Toyota van, and I was amazed at how well it covered. One light and one full coat was enough, pretty good for a red and much better than any product I’ve used recently, including NEXA, DeBeer and Autowave water bases. It didn’t have quite the same gloss as a decent base & clear job, but it buffs up lovely.
here is the deal on prospray… coming from a jobber about to ditch them…
Prospray solvent is a direct carbon copy of Nexa. there is a toner for toner crossover chart which you can use to convert back and forth between the two systems. the solvent is pretty good for the money, and color match was the same as nexa. (since thats where the formulas where probly stolen from LOL) the low voc version of the system kinda sucks though, very low pigmentation in the mix and sprays like gravel guard on a blend.
Prospray waterborne is a great product as far as its chemical makeup. It sprays just like PPG and has/had good color match. The drawback to H2o is that there isn’t chips for all the variants, and they have been moving the old standard match formulas into a variant to make the water match the solvent chips in their variant decks. the problem with this is the water formulas where better match than the solvent so they essentially took a great matching system and wrecked it. I found this by accident when I had to paint my own car and ended up with a fender that does not match worth a crap. however a job i did on the same car a year earlier matched perfect using what was supposed to be the same formula… what I found out was my first mix had become the “lighter variant” and they made a new standard formula which was darker…
so in a nutshell.. prospray is a paint line with potential, but a lot of shortcomings at the organization level.
Thanks for the info yea that jobber keeps telling me it sprays just like PPG and color match just like PPG and after what u said it makes a lot of sence why
I was told ProSpray was ex-ICI people and that many of the catalogue numbers for ProSpray are the same or similar to ICI products?
I’ve used the solvent base and H20, I won’t be buying either again. Solvent because I done want to use it anymore and the H20! Because the colour match on a black Citroen C2 was awful, there was no mix either it’s straight black toner! I only bought it because I was low on Envirobase toner.
Manback – if it really is the same as NEXA then I’m not surprised you had trouble with the blacks. I always had trouble with them. Silvers I’d often do edge to edge but I’d almost always blend the blacks, even solid ones. I just don’t think they had a proper black on the scheme, and that Citroen EXY was brown from what I remember.
I’ve been playing around with some of the pro spray since my jobber picked it up. Not a lot of experience with it but used the 8500 clear..it seems nice. Sprays nice and lays down nice. I compared WA177B Emerald Green with Sikkens AB+, Wanda solvent, and Prospray solvent. AB+ took about 4 coats for full coverage…Wanda 6 and the prospray about 6.5 over the black/white sprayouts. For color match they are all blendable on standard variants. Could have easily laid down some black, and blended it out in 2-3 coats with both wanda and prospray. Sprayed a lexus black 212 on a bumper, covered in 2 coats over gray and matched up well.
Limited experience…but haven’t seen anything negative with what I’ve used.
I have the nexa solvent to prospray solvent conversion chart if anyone wants it.
in waterborne they are not the same… nexa and enviro are the same, one product two labels from PPG
prospray water had better color match a few years ago, now they are playing with formulas trying to make the solvent and water spray the same color for each variant.
what i find is most waterborne colors work better in the lighter variant. they now have a note in the software on what is the “old” standard color in waterborne, so just default to that as a first attempt at color match.
Yes prospray can successfully be used as a crossover to nexa, when i first started on my own there was an old ici mixing unit in my property, i used prospray tinters on it, as i was just starting out and money was tight.
No problems apart from the usual ici/nexa faults loads of variants for just about every colour and the usual over the top 9 or ten tinters in every mix lol
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