Anyone using cromax pro making money
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I’ve been using cromax pro for almost 2 years now and can’t get it where I was with sikkens on profit and would like some suggestions if anyone has any. My profit dropped a lot we went from making 45 to 50 percent a month down to 10 percent max. And I keep asking reps why is this crap so expensive and we feel like we r paying top dollar and not getting what we r paying for cause this is suppose to be axaltas best product
Not sure if Cromax is Axaltas best product, I would say that Standox or Spies has a better line, but anyways are you happy with the paint and just not making money with it. Or not happy with the paint and not making money. I use Standox Standoblue (which is the same) and love the paint and the speed of the product.
don’t like it and not making money with it the biggest issues I have are color match and support from my jobber which is now NCS
I don’t know why it’s said anonymous the first post
There are only 3 shops in the region I cover using cromax pro. The Axalta distributors here still push chromabase. The painter at one pf the shops refers to it as spray and pray. I have however seen shops make it work decently……. as for making money with it> just wait until you see the price increases coming with the axalta branding change
Oh and basf is such a bargain 😡 Every brand has good and bad points…..
Vary true they all good bad even Shirley Williams :headsmack:
Yea but this product is mostly bad
“some shops make it work decently” Not a true statement I wouldent use it if it was just decennt, There is lots of painters doing well with the Axalta line. Does it have some drawbacks? yes Does it have some advantages? definitially.
I’m making it work but I’m trying to make money with not make it work cause I’ve done that now just need to make money cause my boss will not switch no matter what and I’m losing my ass on materials every month
If it’s not your shop then how are you loosing money on the materials
I get 15 percent bonus when we make profit at the end if the month
Hey guys, new the the board here… just recently made the switch from full time painter, to jobber paint tech/trouble shooter…. I will say, I have used Cromax Pro fro the last 7 years.. It has came a long way since my introduction to the system..
Most of the trouble shooting & quirks & remedies I pretty much figured out on my own, most of the Dupont staff are up to speed and doing very well with the product now!! I painted in the same shop for 25 years, I left the shop 2 1/2 years ago when they sold to a major MSO, everything I had heard on this particular MSO was not good.. So, it was time for a change..
I now work for a Axalta “dupont” Champions Jobber, it is hard because the market is so cut throat.. My personal opinion is, all the water systems work out there.. some maybe better then others, but it comes down to support & price & what you feel comfortable with… Cromax is like no other out there with the great coverage & wet bed blending… But, with this also comes a whole new learning curve.. IMO
It really reminds me of the old days of spraying single stage metallics, but with out the sticky…
I dont claim top know everything, but if there’s anything I can do to help anyone with any of Axaltas water lines please feel free to ask.. or, maybe a few of you could share some useful facts with me?? Plus please… I’m always open to learning new tricks and technique’s from out in the field…
I really urge any of you who haven’t tried it & are considering water to set up a few day demo from your local jobber…I just want someone to tell me or help me make money with this crappy paint I’ve made it work but it’s really hurting my wallet at the end of the month I don’t want the whole sales reps speech I want help making money but I’m really starting it think you can’t with cromax pro
I guess a good question to ask would be how are you guys charging for your paint materials? Also, how are you tracking material usage? Knowing the accounting end is a crucial starting point. Is your jobber giving you any discount, kickbacks/rebates etc and if so, are they being applied to the paint materials in your accounting software? Are your shop materials calculated seperately? Are you the only person handling the materials, if not, is there excess waste/ineffeciency being created?
Your shop may simply not be charging enough for them. Waterbourne does tend to cost more than solvent, and when your shop converted from solvent to water (regardless of brand) the profit on paint materials should have been monitored and adjusted accordingly.
I do agree, that as far as waterbourne is concerned, Cromax Pro does wind up being much more expensive than DuPont was marketing it as. Their whole pitch was based on the idea that the decreased labour time (with the 1.5 cost process) would offset any increase in material cost, even if that wasn’t the way they were saying it.
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