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  • May 16, 2012 at 3:06 pm #36920

    guys i would like your opinions, i am painting a 65 mustang show car the color is black, my question is what kind of paint do you recomend for gloss, very durable scratch free ( as much as possible) single stage or a clear coat system.

    May 16, 2012 at 4:44 pm #36921

    What experience do you have painting, and what have you used before? Also, do you plan on any wet sanding/polishing later?

    May 16, 2012 at 7:01 pm #36922

    IMO, shoot Single stage(UH Ford), wetsand next day with 600 grit and 3 coats of good clear. You will have a nice deep glossey wet looking shine.

    May 17, 2012 at 4:53 am #36928

    I prefer UA or even the bluer variant over UH….just sayin :p

    May 17, 2012 at 5:15 am #36929

    I have to agree with jay, UH is a pearl black. UA is nicer looking

    May 17, 2012 at 7:20 am #36932

    As for the original topic… 🙂

    I would go with a paint that is a little softer (easier to polish). The harder scratch resistant paints are a real bitch to polish. And being black, you will see all sorts of scratches in no time and will want to polish it. I think having the ability to easily polish it out (on a black) is far better (to me) than a hard ass paint that will still scratch. In fact, if it were my car, I would avoid black

    May 17, 2012 at 3:10 pm #36933

    Hi. Without question if you are painting a show car I would without doubt paint it in basecoat followed by clearcoat. Painting a straight black direct gloss has many pitfalls when it comes environmental effects, inclusion during application and UV protection(may fade as sunlight will damage it). Polishing a straight colour black is also awful and can lead to over polishing, swirling and spider webbing and then over correction.

    Painting in clear over base in my experience is always a much better finished job. this is because during application any faults in the colour can be easily rectified and any faults or inclusions in the following laquer are usually invisible on a black job and can easily be levelled during the polishing/buffing stages. Laquer polishes better than direct gloss as solid colours – especioally black- easily go milky looking.
    Good luck.

    May 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm #36934

    clear coat all day. – clear over basecoat black – winner winner chicken dinner.

    Good luck!

    May 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm #36935

    well ben i have been painting for 24 years, i agree with u on avoiding black, but unfortinaly i painted this car for a customer 2 years ago. this is a complete show car over 100,00 thousand invested in this car it is really mint but the paint will lightly scratch when its rubed, wiped ,even a cal. duster. the car was sprayed in glasurit base and clear. sanded and buffed from 600-800-1000-2000-3000 like i said it looks great when its freshly buffed then with just the fine air dust if you wipe it with a micro fober towel or a duster it will leave very fine scratches. has anyone used a clear that will that will not scratch like this. this has to be show car quality.

    May 17, 2012 at 4:53 pm #36936

    Every clear I have used will do the same thing (really minor of course, and not noticeable unless the car is immaculately clean).

    You could try out some of the scratch resistant ceramic clear, it will still scratch but should be a lot more resistant to the minor issues you are dealing with.

    May 17, 2012 at 11:16 pm #36937

    [quote=”Jayson M” post=26198]I prefer UA or even the bluer variant over UH….just sayin :p[/quote]

    Sorry my mistake, i meant UA.

    May 18, 2012 at 1:48 am #36940

    i have heard of the ceramic clear but cant seem to get any. also heard it had to be baked at 450 degrese

    May 18, 2012 at 2:43 am #36941

    I use ceramiclear quite often, sprays like normal clear and excellent for air dry enviroments. Stuff is very durable.

    http://uk.nexaautocolor.com/en/products/car/clearcoat/

    May 18, 2012 at 3:02 am #36942

    I’ve heard that it is difficult to make a repair on ceramiclear,not sure why, but have you found that to be true?

    May 18, 2012 at 3:26 am #36943

    Nope not at all.For you guys that are having trouble polishing real HS clears or anti scratch get yourself some Farecla G4 with a Farecla lambs wool pad.These products will cut down your buffing time in half.Finish up with some G10 and the farecla red finishing foam and its down the road.THis is the only polish our shop has found that works on superior 250.

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