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- AnonymousJanuary 1, 2014 at 5:41 am #45746
I’ve always wondered what brand of paint Toyota and Volvo used cause it always seems when u get a painted piece is always seems to match pretty good or at least 9 out of 10 for me any way
Generally, each factory makes their own supply arrangements. This has to do with different technologies used in different factories as well as marketing areas for the various paint suppliers as well as differing standards which apply in various countries.
Pre-painted pieces are often made and painted in a different factory altogether, often just a supplier to the main factory. That these parts match well has more to do with the quality control implemented by that supplier or the main factory than the brand of paint, bearing in mind that the paint used could be completely different technology, say for plastics, than that used on the body of the car.
It is luck of the draw though. I’ve had pre-painted parts that match well and others that are so bad that they need refinishing.
AnonymousJanuary 2, 2014 at 7:42 am #45750[quote=”NFT5″ post=34326]Generally, each factory makes their own supply arrangements. This has to do with different technologies used in different factories as well as marketing areas for the various paint suppliers as well as differing standards which apply in various countries.
Pre-painted pieces are often made and painted in a different factory altogether, often just a supplier to the main factory. That these parts match well has more to do with the quality control implemented by that supplier or the main factory than the brand of paint, bearing in mind that the paint used could be completely different technology, say for plastics, than that used on the body of the car.
It is luck of the draw though. I’ve had pre-painted parts that match well and others that are so bad that they need refinishing.[/quote]
I agree, i don’t think it’s uncommon for OE Manufacturers to use multiple paint lines.
I don’t know about Toyota but Honda in the us uses’ PPG DuPont and Sherwin that’s rite all three one for ground coat one for color and one for clear one year PPG might be clear one year maybe Sherwin the plant manager in Ohio told me this is how they keep the American paint manufacture honest with price and quality seems to work so who knows what there supplier of pre painted parts uses
Depending on what factory and what day youre in that factory you will find paint from almost every major player. BASF, PPG, DuPont, Valspar. Sherwin, and AKZO.
As mentioned they can use and variation of those products. It may be a ppg supplied ecoat and a DuPont base with a BASF clear. They thing alot of guys forget is the lines they spray in the factory is NOTHING like we use in the refinish division. Most cars look like shit before entering a bake cycle at the factory. The clears are designed for 300-400 degree bake cycles. Product is designed to level out during that bake cycle. The hands down biggest reason for variations of color matches is this: Take Gm for example they allow a 7% difference from the Standard paint sample they provide to all of the paint suppliers.So if PPG comes in with lets say a wa519f that is coarser than the gm standard and sherwin comes in with a wa519f that is darker than the standard and BASF comes in with a cleaner/finer wa519f, so long as those dont fall out of that 7% window they are considered acceptable to the standard.
And as stated most plastic pieces are painted by an outside company for that mfg. There are several companies outsourced by mfg to paint these parts. Most of them however use “traditional” refinish products.
Other than the basf statement lol just kidding all vary true statements a friend of mine ran a plant that did bumper covers for grand Cherokee they used PPG it was definitely more like the refinish products we use except for robots and fancy self mixing units :rock
What I’ve been told is pretty much way 614paintworx said.
As for Sherwin Williams, they do not supply any exterior coatings on the OEM level. Their OEM paint is strictly used on interior parts. That is SW policy. I was told this is because they didn’t ever want to be liable for issues like Fords peeling trucks from the late 80s/early 90s and GM & Chrysler issues from over the years. I do see their point, but it also sounds like lack of faith in their product.
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