Bronze color code

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  • Anonymous
    May 6, 2013 at 2:37 pm #43094

    Howdy,

    Got a request to repaint a Kawasaki 1400 GTR in Magnesium Metallic Grey code 27Y.Unfortunately the ppg dealer can’t mix the mid coat.
    any sugestions to another color like this one?

    [URL=http://s204.photobucket.com/user/dagges/media/30263_0_4_4_140020gtr_Image20credits20-20Kawasaki_zpsce05d20b.jpg.html][IMG]http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb126/dagges/30263_0_4_4_140020gtr_Image20credits20-20Kawasaki_zpsce05d20b.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    Dag

    brandon dingwell
    May 7, 2013 at 2:14 am #43098

    Its a limited use toner in the global line. Looks like it’s avail in waterborne as well. I didnt get a warning about the toner for water. maybe it woul be better to see if you could get it mixed that way

    gunner
    May 7, 2013 at 3:57 am #43102

    Try the watter, who knows mabeye you will like it. Looks like a nice color, is it a candy or a pearl overlay?

    Dag Martinsson
    May 7, 2013 at 4:15 am #43103

    Thank’s, but he don’t sell water yet. He has the Deltron Global system. Is there a on-line site where I can see the formulas myself?

    Dag

    brandon dingwell
    May 7, 2013 at 4:20 am #43104

    http://www.ppg.com/coatings/refinishmiddleeast/Collision/Colour/Pages/1220_Online%20Colour.aspx

    You have to register for the online color access

    Simon Richards
    May 8, 2013 at 12:56 pm #43125

    Dag, here’s the Deltron GRS formula for 1000ml of each layer
    [b]
    Basecoat/Main layer[/b]

    D989 Coarse silver aluminium 530.4gm
    D789 Jet Black 250.2gm
    D740 Black 150.1gm
    D759 Matting base 15.0gm

    [b]Tinted Clearcoat[/b]

    D895 Colourblender 881.2gm
    DH995 Red to Gold 22.0gm (Limited use tinter)
    D759 Matting base 22.0gm

    Maybe you could substitute the red to gold with some red pearl and some gold pearl powder?

    Hope this info helps you?

    Dag Martinsson
    May 8, 2013 at 8:57 pm #43132

    Thank you Paintwerks! I will see with the owner if he want me to make a tryout.
    I have never sprayed a pearl mid coat before, how many coats can I expect to shoot 2-3?

    Dag

    Simon Richards
    May 9, 2013 at 3:28 am #43136

    Dag, you’re very welcome! Happy to help out a fellow painter. 🙂

    With a tri-stage (3 layer) paint, you spray the main layer to full saturation (anywhere from 3-7 coats depending on gun setup and whether in this case if you’ve used the G7 greymatic coats first).

    In the mid/effect layer (the tinted colour blender), you’ll need to spray anywhere from 2-4 coats with 5-10 min flash off. If you’re painting the whole bike, it’s a little easier because you don’t have to match anything else, and then about 3 coats should be just right. But if you are matching, you’ll need to do 4 spray out cards, with the cards having 1,2,3 and 4 coats of the pearl mid coat (after each card has had the main layer applied). Then you need to clear coat all the cards with the same product and material thickness you’ll be using on the job. Then you can eye match.

    Btw, if you need to tint, only tint the main layer.

    One last thing….because you are applying quite a lot of coats of base, don’t clearcoat right at the end of the 15 minute final flash off period. Let the panels sit for at least an hour, preferably 2 before clearcoat. This will allow adequate time for proper flash off (especially if one doesn’t have a spray booth with constant airflow over the parts).

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,
    Simon

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