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  • September 3, 2012 at 2:04 am #38131

    really doesnt look too bad in the photos. maybe they just did a bad buff job on it.

    September 3, 2012 at 3:49 am #38138

    Im gonna go out on a limb here, i think they sealed the whole fender with a # 7 VS and then they based it and the basecoat didnt achieve coverage which would give you that milkey look(bleedthru) Color may have been transparant or they reduced it too much.
    Either way the fender and maybe the door has to be rebased and than cleared, you said you asked them to paint just the front part of the fender and reclear the rest of the fender but really how do you know? maybe they thought that color would butt match fine and panel painted it. ????

    September 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm #38162

    It is worse than i thought it was going to be.

    Certainly needs rectifying, as ding mentioned a bad buff job can replicate what we see here, not always though.

    On black cars and dark colours there are additional steps in the buffing procedure.

    Though i suspect it is going to be a repaint job with a blend into the door.

    September 3, 2012 at 6:22 pm #38163

    It could be numerous things. It would be best to just allow the shop to fix it or take it to another shop you are comfortable with. If it doesn’t buff you will be into the door, no matter if you like it or not.

    I see no reason anyone would have sealed the whole fender and based it, but I can see if they cut through and just colored the whole thing.

    Bad buff job is possible. It would be the easiest fix, not sure if that is going to be it. That would be the first thing I tried.

    Could also be in the clear. Clear could have been close to out of pot-life when it was sprayed.

    Fact of the matter is you need to decide whether you can live with it or not. If not let someone qualified fix it however they need to and you will be happier. If you go in there and tell them they cant touch the door you will be more likely to be unhappy again. If you don’t feel comfortable taking it back to the previous shop then find another that you are comfortable with, tell them what you want and let them do their job, you will be happier in the end.

    I know if the job came in to me I would first buff it, if that didn’t work the only choice I would give would be to de-trim door and fender. Basecoat over fender and door area, blend, and clearcoat both panels. If they use a quality material the paint will be just as good or better than what came on the car.

    September 3, 2012 at 7:01 pm #38165

    [quote=”ryan999″ post=27303]It could be numerous things. It would be best to just allow the shop to fix it or take it to another shop you are comfortable with. If it doesn’t buff you will be into the door, no matter if you like it or not.

    I see no reason anyone would have sealed the whole fender and based it, but I can see if they cut through and just colored the whole thing.

    Bad buff job is possible. It would be the easiest fix, not sure if that is going to be it. That would be the first thing I tried.

    Could also be in the clear. Clear could have been close to out of pot-life when it was sprayed.

    Fact of the matter is you need to decide whether you can live with it or not. If not let someone qualified fix it however they need to and you will be happier. If you go in there and tell them they cant touch the door you will be more likely to be unhappy again. If you don’t feel comfortable taking it back to the previous shop then find another that you are comfortable with, tell them what you want and let them do their job, you will be happier in the end.

    I know if the job came in to me I would first buff it, if that didn’t work the only choice I would give would be to de-trim door and fender. Basecoat over fender and door area, blend, and clearcoat both panels. If they use a quality material the paint will be just as good or better than what came on the car.[/quote]

    Maybe during prep someone burned thru or there was stone chips from the road wheel and were afraid of having a dry edge from the sealer, either way i can see reason they sealed the complete fender, i have seen this before.

    September 5, 2012 at 5:42 am #38172

    Hey guys thanks for all your input. I’m just not sure if anyone can blend this color properly. Its black with a good amount of metal flake. I fear no matter which way when the sun hits it you’ll see the difference if repainted.The reason why I fear this is the area that they painted ( another spot done a while ago ) you can see the metal flake in the new paint in very tiny where the original flake is bigger and more pronounced.
    One question, these cars where built in Australia and I live in Canada, do the ausie’s have strict rules on water base paints like canada or do they use old school non water base paints, hence not a good color match.
    Ryan999 how would you blend this sucker into the door ?
    Thanks
    Andy

    September 5, 2012 at 5:45 am #38173

    Ding they didn’t buff when they cleared the fender.
    Thanks
    [quote=”ding” post=27286]really doesnt look too bad in the photos. maybe they just did a bad buff job on it.[/quote]

    September 5, 2012 at 5:47 am #38174

    I can tell because the metal flake in the paint of the fender is identical to the door.[quote=”smooth” post=27291]Im gonna go out on a limb here, i think they sealed the whole fender with a # 7 VS and then they based it and the basecoat didnt achieve coverage which would give you that milkey look(bleedthru) Color may have been transparant or they reduced it too much.
    Either way the fender and maybe the door has to be rebased and than cleared, you said you asked them to paint just the front part of the fender and reclear the rest of the fender but really how do you know? maybe they thought that color would butt match fine and panel painted it. ????[/quote]

    September 5, 2012 at 6:13 am #38175

    I forget the exact code of that color but it is a piece of cake to match and blend,I have done it numerous times.There are different variants for the same color(lighter,darker coarser,redder,bluer,yellower etc) The idea with blending is to trick the human eye by seeing some of the old color through the new color.Search the site for videos on blending paint they will show you much easier than I can explain.Color match with waterborne is far superior than solvent,I also live in Canada and its a non issue.

    September 5, 2012 at 7:04 am #38178

    Thanks Jayson, wanna paint a G8 😆
    Be nice if Jimmo could chime in…..

    September 6, 2012 at 5:54 am #38208

    i agree with jay, color matching is easier with water, but one thing folks don’t know is that the factorys are not required to use wb paints. and one problem with wb to solvent, is that the wb is much more vibirante, cleaner. but lucky for us we do have alternates. i know on my mixing system some of the alternates are listed with a perticular countries. like austrialia for example. whick i thought was weired since ive never seen one imported here.

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