Completes with Iwata LPH 400 LV 1.3
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I’m not getting a warm fuzzy with this new gun…….I’m still ‘tuning’ with it but a question is in the back of my mind whether this will be fast enough for a complete:unsure: Might end up using the RP! Anyone use an Iwata for a complete? Tips?
Mine has a 1.4 tip. I run it wide open with the air pressure cranked up a bit. It’s not real fast, but it does lay out the clear smoooooth and is fast enough.
If your RP is working for you, and since it is a much faster gun, you might just want to stick with it:)
I’m guessing that your a Sikkens user by your avatar. What clear are you spraying. If it’s Autoclear 3 then no I wouldn’t use the Iwata. You would need to put a 1.4 nozzle in it. If it’s HS+ then you might be able to pull it off. Iwata recommends a 1.4 for all sikkens clear. You might have better luck with the W-400. It is a compliant gun like the RP. When my shop was still using Sikkens and I had to do a complete I would use a 1.4, if I didn’t it would look a little dry the next day. Plus it was slow.
The cool thing about an Iwata is that to change your gun from a 1.3 to a 1.4 all you need is a fluid nozzle. The air cap and needle are the same. Also you can turn a LPH into a W-400 by replacing the aircap, nozzle and needle. It is the same gun body.
I have an LPH with a 1.3 also. i mainly use it for base. I have noticed with clears it goes on slowwww. Huge difference with that and the RP! I’d seriously look into a 1.4 like everyone else has pointed out, I bet that will make a huge difference. I’m still waiting for my 1.4 for my Iwata W-400. Have the same problem with the 1.3 for that. I did spray a complete with it the other day, it turned out pretty good.
I’ve done quite a few completes w/ an lph-400. Both a 1.4 and a 1.3. Not a whole lot of difference in travel speed/ material delivery between the two IMO. It’s a little slower than a compliant gun, but it gets the job done with less overspray.
How close are you to the panel while spraying with that gun? That gun likes to be crazy close to a panel like 4″, to work right.
Now if we’re talking base and the LVB (purple cap),,,,,,,, yeah,,,,,,, now that’s slow,,,,,,,, to slow,,,,, not even worth the effort to attempt to use as far as I’m concerned, I still like my t-1 HVLP for base.
[b]alexflacco wrote:[/b]
[quote]Mine has a 1.4 tip. I run it wide open with the air pressure cranked up a bit. It’s not real fast, but it does lay out the clear smoooooth and is fast enough.If your RP is working for you, and since it is a much faster gun, you might just want to stick with it:)[/quote]
Hey Alex….I’ll give the Iwata a chance…I’ve heard good things about them once a guy finds the right set up.
[b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
[quote]I’m guessing that your a Sikkens user by your avatar. What clear are you spraying. If it’s Autoclear 3 then no I wouldn’t use the Iwata. You would need to put a 1.4 nozzle in it. If it’s HS+ then you might be able to pull it off. Iwata recommends a 1.4 for all sikkens clear. You might have better luck with the W-400. It is a compliant gun like the RP. When my shop was still using Sikkens and I had to do a complete I would use a 1.4, if I didn’t it would look a little dry the next day. Plus it was slow.The cool thing about an Iwata is that to change your gun from a 1.3 to a 1.4 all you need is a fluid nozzle. The air cap and needle are the same. Also you can turn a LPH into a W-400 by replacing the aircap, nozzle and needle. It is the same gun body.[/quote]
I’m actually using Akzo’s ‘budget’ line…U-Tech 4.0 Select.. 4:1 HS. Good to hear about the interchangeability of the gun!
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]I have an LPH with a 1.3 also. i mainly use it for base. I have noticed with clears it goes on slowwww. Huge difference with that and the RP! I’d seriously look into a 1.4 like everyone else has pointed out, I bet that will make a huge difference. I’m still waiting for my 1.4 for my Iwata W-400. Have the same problem with the 1.3 for that. I did spray a complete with it the other day, it turned out pretty good.[/quote]Thanks Jimmo…I’ll make a call and check on the price and availability of the 1.4…I dropped a line to ‘Hub’ on the Anest message board to see what he has to say about this setup.
No prob, Keep in mind I’m assuming the 1.4 would be much better, Bloverby sounds like he’s tried it and didn’t notice much different. If you do get the 1.4, let me know how you find it.
[b]bloverby wrote:[/b]
[quote]I’ve done quite a few completes w/ an lph-400. Both a 1.4 and a 1.3. Not a whole lot of difference in travel speed/ material delivery between the two IMO. It’s a little slower than a compliant gun, but it gets the job done with less overspray.How close are you to the panel while spraying with that gun? That gun likes to be crazy close to a panel like 4″, to work right.
Now if we’re talking base and the LVB (purple cap),,,,,,,, yeah,,,,,,, now that’s slow,,,,,,,, to slow,,,,, not even worth the effort to attempt to use as far as I’m concerned, I still like my t-1 HVLP for base.[/quote]
I actually moved in to 4-5″ from the panel…still slower gun speed than my RP…cranked it up to 25psi at the gun…. 4 turns out on the fluid…turned the fan in to 8″…huge fan on this gun! I’m going to slow down a tad more next time. I’m using my SATA for sealer/base…comfortable with that gun.
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]No prob, Keep in mind I’m assuming the 1.4 would be much better, Bloverby sounds like he’s tried it and didn’t notice much different. If you do get the 1.4, let me know how you find it.[/quote]I’ve got one coming in…supposed to be here in a couple of days…I’ll let ya know if it helps.
I use an LPH400 for everything here except true high build primers and poly primers.. Everything else gets shot thru my lph.. I run a 1.4, fan wide open, with about 25 psi for clear, and around 20 for base.. You will need to shoot close to the panel and if thats not your style, then its not your gun in my opinion.. A GFG as mentioned above I have heard nothing but great things about for clear.. Same good news about an RP and a W400.. the RP and W400 are compliant, but will hose out materail much more than an LPH.. If you are used to cranking out the fluid and hammering down the paint, then you probably will never like the LPH.. It took me a long time to get used to the gun as I had always been a hoser with a conventional gravity fed gun.. Great gun, but not for everyone thats for sure..
I think you could teach most anyone to paint with a Sata RP with time and practice and love the gun, but you would be hard pressed to teach everyone to love an Iwata..
Just my 2 quarts worth:P
I’m going to give it a good go BK…I’m pretty sure I can get it to work….just going to find it’s limits..or mine!:silly:
I’m not for sure if you use them but hi-flow fittings will make a world of difference with this gun. When I first got mine about 3 1/2 years ago, I had no idea about hi-flow fittings i just used a standard quick disconnect. I hated this gun! Once I switched over it made a world of difference.
[b]Charlie wrote:[/b]
…still slower gun speed than my RP…[/quote]No doubt there,,,,,,, apples to oranges.
No shame in sticking with the RP if that’s more your style.
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