Cromax Mosaic
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Anyone on here using Axaltas new low voc solvent? the local rep described it as lays down like silk , great color match, coverage and is 2/3 the cost of their waterborne They are coming in next week for a demo, just looking for some opinions.
Not sure why my post showed as anonymous :compsmash
Never used it, but it sounds like it could be a good product. Let me know how the demo goes, Id like to try out some of the compliant solvent products. I have grown to love spraying water, but there are things I miss about solvent. I lucked out with Aquabase because the application is so similar to solvent. I really was not a fan of the all wet application that standox/dupont water use. I like the idea and speed of it, but I just didn’t like it when it came to actually using it on a job. I have herd good things about the BASF compliant solvent, I didn’t even know Axalta had a similar line out. I love the color match the water lines have but PPG and Sikkens are the only two lines I liked spraying.
Cool Smooth,I look forward to hearing how it works for you,I am tempted to do my friends chevelle with it :kofee
Interested in hearing from an end user myself! keep us posted.
Anyone even demoed it yet??? I will be sure to keep you guys posted!!!
I will be spraying some Mosaic tomorrow. Chrysler silver PS2. Colour looked good. I also got some ford UN which is not a good match. This car doesn’t matter so its ok, gonna blend it and see how it goes.
I was curious how it works so just ordered some for my next 2 jobs. My first impression is its thin un reduced compared to what I have been using. Its mixed 1:2 so its gonna be thin. If it covers it will go far.
I’m interested in hearing your take on it. I have herd it’s O.K. But not great. I think the compliant products that are out there now, still need some time. But I realy like the Axalta water products.
Update: The Axalta rep never did show up for the demo that he was supposed to do for us. So till this day I have not tried it. I think it may have something to do with they are trying to push Cromax Pro in my area ( sales / Politics) which I see no point being I’m not interested in that product.
I attended an I- Car class in November 2014 in which the instructor was also an Axalta paint rep, he mentioned that it’s Low Voc Chromabase/ Chroma Premiere and wasn’t as fast as Cromax Pro, which I have trouble understanding.
Since then PPG has provided me with their new Rapid Match Prophet X5 Camera. Color match issues are now a thing of the past, Very happy with it , I can get a blendible match in under 5 mins, so I doubt I will changing paint lines anytime soonThat’s too bad you never got your demo. But as far as speed goes there is no way a multi coat system would be as fast as Cromax Pro or Standox Standoblue. When properly used there is nothing faster than Cromax Pro Standox Standoblue or Spies Hytec.
I know I’m not a good person to say how good this stuff is. I have only been spraying garbage for the last 2 years and before that was RM diamont in the 90’s. I can say it sprays 1000 times better than the other crap I have tried. The silver turned out extremely well. I put on 2.5 coats of base. I did a spray out of the ford UN. The adjustment binder is milky so it does change the color when reduced. I used my prolight with 1.3 tip. tds says 1.3-1.4.
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Difference between out of can color and reduced and sprayed, I needed the bluer variant but this car doesn’t matter. I can get the paint scanned first when I need a good color.
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Nice! Did it feel and act like old school solvent, or diferent? Glad you liked it!
To me it was easy to spray and how I remember. I know I had to try to stripe and mottle rm diamont. I was spraying that as an apprentice with success. It flashed quick but not like the other stuff that dried before it got to the panel.
It lays down nice and smooth. I will get a better feel on the next one, rear bumper and 1/4’s. Gonna try a blend without the base blender additive. As far as I can tell there is no wet bed.I tried to get the adjustment binder for 65F but they had never heard of it. I had the part number from the tds. I also watched the e learning course.
I used the one for 75F. It gets cold in the booth because the bay doors are opened alot because the mechanic side is drive through and park inside.I sprayed the other car today. I only took 1 picture. I had to hustle a bit. Didn’t start spraying till 1:15 and 3:15 is home time. It flashes quick and best of all its not like sand when you try to blend it. It lands wet from far away. I did not get a real good look at it but it may be a tiny bit blotchy in the blend in a couple spots. It could be my lack of experience or not having the blender additive for the basecoat. I really needed to blend the doors but it didn’t need to be perfect.
I’m happy with it right now, it sprays good and goes far.
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