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  • February 20, 2013 at 6:53 am #41512

    Hello everyone, I was looking for some help and opinions on disposable cup systems, as I’m thinking about switching over from the pots and devilbiss bag liners and the mixing cups , I think it would save me time, although idk about the money, as all systems seem to be kinda pricey . I got a sample kit of the dekups to try out later this week , but I dislike that it doesn’t have the ratios on the cup opposed to the new Devilbiss Gunner cup or the Sata RPS. Which do you guys use and like. Another question I have is do you guys use them from sealer through clear or just base?

    Thanks

    February 20, 2013 at 7:16 am #41516

    I used to use the 3M PPS cups, they wre good. But storing paint was a little awkward, and when the outter cup got old and dirty it wasn’t fun. I am using the SATA RPS cups now. They are very user friendly. Only complaint is that the lid can be easy to screw on a little off when in a hurry and not paying attention. Clicking the vent open/ closed takes a few weeks to get in the habit of remembering…

    I use them for everything…I don’t own any cups for my guns. I wash out my clear ones and reuse them for primer and occasionally jambing (with a new lid and filter).

    February 20, 2013 at 7:23 am #41518

    [quote=”Ben” post=30446]I used to use the 3M PPS cups, they wre good. But storing paint was a little awkward, and when the outter cup got old and dirty it wasn’t fun. I am using the SATA RPS cups now. They are very user friendly. Only complaint is that the lid can be easy to screw on a little off when in a hurry and not paying attention. Clicking the vent open/ closed takes a few weeks to get in the habit of remembering…

    I use them for everything…I don’t own any cups for my guns. I wash out my clear ones and reuse them for primer and occasionally jambing (with a new lid and filter).[/quote]

    Yes they are easy to use, I got a trial when I got my 4000 and liked them a lot but I think they are one of the most expensive ones . But I had the same problems with clicking the tab close . Spilling come clear :rofl

    February 20, 2013 at 7:59 pm #41523

    I am currently using the old style Norton liners until my jobber runs out, probably the cheapest liner system out there, they have been changed due to the fact that they are very similar to the 3M pps ststem (Legal issues). They are now updated but am hearing about issues with the new design. I use them for base only.

    February 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm #41524

    [quote=”smooth” post=30453]I am currently using the old style Norton liners until my jobber runs out, probably the cheapest liner system out there, they have been changed due to the fact that they are very similar to the 3M pps ststem (Legal issues). They are now updated but am hearing about issues with the new design. I use them for base only.[/quote]
    What kind of issues are you hearing

    February 21, 2013 at 2:46 am #41527

    I love my 3m cups. I used Devilbiss bags for a couple years, and they just are nowhere as clean. Good enough for primer and glue, which is what I mainly used them for.

    February 21, 2013 at 4:57 am #41537

    [quote=”ding” post=30454][quote=”smooth” post=30453]I am currently using the old style Norton liners until my jobber runs out, probably the cheapest liner system out there, they have been changed due to the fact that they are very similar to the 3M pps ststem (Legal issues). They are now updated but am hearing about issues with the new design. I use them for base only.[/quote]
    What kind of issues are you hearing[/q

    my jobber was notified by Norton that there was an issue with suction and paint flow. Probably more of a waterborne issue.

    February 21, 2013 at 5:01 am #41538

    [quote=”ding” post=30454][quote=”smooth” post=30453]I am currently using the old style Norton liners until my jobber runs out, probably the cheapest liner system out there, they have been changed due to the fact that they are very similar to the 3M pps ststem (Legal issues). They are now updated but am hearing about issues with the new design. I use them for base only.[/quote]
    What kind of issues are you hearing[/quote]

    My jobber recieved a bulletin from Norton that they were having an issue with suction and paint flow, probably more of a waterborne issue.

    February 21, 2013 at 6:51 am #41544

    [quote=”MetRamos” post=30442]Hello everyone, I was looking for some help and opinions on disposable cup systems, as I’m thinking about switching over from the pots and devilbiss bag liners and the mixing cups , I think it would save me time, although idk about the money, as all systems seem to be kinda pricey . I got a sample kit of the dekups to try out later this week , but I dislike that it doesn’t have the ratios on the cup opposed to the new Devilbiss Gunner cup or the Sata RPS. Which do you guys use and like. Another question I have is do you guys use them from sealer through clear or just base?

    Thanks[/quote]
    Do you have a scale to weigh out your paint/clear? That way you don’t have to worry about scales on the sides of the cups.

    February 21, 2013 at 8:22 am #41545

    [quote=”Idunnit” post=30474][quote=”MetRamos” post=30442]Hello everyone, I was looking for some help and opinions on disposable cup systems, as I’m thinking about switching over from the pots and devilbiss bag liners and the mixing cups , I think it would save me time, although idk about the money, as all systems seem to be kinda pricey . I got a sample kit of the dekups to try out later this week , but I dislike that it doesn’t have the ratios on the cup opposed to the new Devilbiss Gunner cup or the Sata RPS. Which do you guys use and like. Another question I have is do you guys use them from sealer through clear or just base?

    Thanks[/quote]
    Do you have a scale to weigh out your paint/clear? That way you don’t have to worry about scales on the sides of the cups.[/quote]

    No I don’t, I’m on my own, I wish I did, but as I don’t I have to rely on the scales on cups, I would try to use less disposable cups as I’d use the pot for clear and the disposable cups for sealer and base, but as I don’t have a weight I would still need to buy mixing cups defeating the purpose of trying to save money and less waste

    February 23, 2013 at 9:00 am #41583

    I use 3M pps and i wash them out and use them again for primer or inside colour. Once you start paying for them. you soon realise that yes they are quick but there also exspensive. if your shop used 2 boxes every week and you washed them out quickly and used them again for primer you can save thousands a year.

    example: our price for 2 box’s is $252 so times that by 50 working weeks = $12,600 now if you washed out just half of the cups and used them 2 or 3 times. it can save you an eye opening amount of money and there not a pain to clean either.

    February 23, 2013 at 4:55 pm #41588

    Just a silly question. I use disposable cups because i am lazy. If you wash the liners out and reuse them, why not save the money and just mix your products in plastic mixing cups and wash those out instead?

    February 23, 2013 at 6:54 pm #41593

    I agree with ding why not just keep your aluminum cup or plastic cup on your gun and use plastic mixing cups and just reuse the cups cause they arent as pricey as the PPS cups per box

    March 11, 2013 at 3:04 am #42016

    i like the pps system its simple to use and i hate plastic pots and cups. not keen on double handling the paint as im a mess maker. only time i use plastic cups is making up larger amounts then 650mls. the pps cups wash out really easily to. only wash out the clear and sealer ones. basecoat cups go in the bin they take to long to clean.

    March 12, 2013 at 3:20 am #42039

    Ive been using the 3m pps cups for a while now, ocasionally I will wash one out or if I have clear that hasnt hardened in the liner ill re use the liner if its still in good order. Rps cups took some getting used to, they breathe better than the pps cups, I definitly f’d up a couple times forgetting to pop that cap on the top to mix more paint, or pop it up before spraying. 😛 I believe the Rps are pricier than the Pps cups…

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