DUPONT-CENTARI MASTERTINT TINTER AM SOLVENT Scheme
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DUPONT-CENTARI MASTERTINT TINTER…. AM SOLVENT BASECOAT scheme
Does any1 know much about this scheme
And if base has gone thick/gelly like is there anything that can be done to save it ?
When it comes to paint i like to use the old saying “when in doubt throw it out” :lol1
Centari to has a long shelf life, but if it has started to gel, I definitely wouldn’t bother with it. Why were you looking to use it rather than mixing fresh paint?
I have this system.
Some of the tinters aren’t used very much and eventually start to thicken especially if there’s not a lot in the tin. I go through each tin every month when I do a paint order and those that are thickening up just add a little AB380 reducer. It’s a bit of guesswork because you don’t want to over thin and affect the way the tinter will work in a mix but pearls are worth over $400 for a one litre tin and xirallics close to $1000, so you can’t afford to just keep throwing them out. I’ve also used acrylic lacquer thinner and had no problems with that either, in fact if anything it works a little better being not quite as volatile as the AB380.
When they get very old the tinters start to get tiny lumps of hardened product that will get through a medium fine filter. At that point you have no choice – bin it.
Well the thing is I have just paid £25 for a full scheme that’s been stood for a long time
So if I can save it ill have made a cracking buy.
There 1l or bigger with heads and aprox 50 sets of chips25 quid? That really is a bargain! I paid $1500 for mine which I bought from my supplier when they updated to a new system. They guaranteed that there would be not less than 200ml in each tin, some were a lot more. Dupont have since replaced the rack and all the lids so it’s now virtually new.
I’d try to recover what I could. Might be worth using the acrylic thinners, add a little to the tins that have thickened up and, if necessary, use a paint stirrer to open up the tinter a bit so the thinners can soak in. Let it soften up for a day or so then stir and add a little more if necessary. Might help if you have at least one tin of each type colour/pearl/metallic that was in new or very good condition so that you can get a feel for the right consistency. Some colours, especially blues, tend to be a little thinner than others like whites/yellows, but not much.
Have a chat to your local supplier. Where you have tins that are not recoverable they might be willing to sell you what’s left in their tins once they get down to 200ml. That way you get fresh tinter, in the right tin and not have to pay for a full litre. They might also be able to do top-ups of 200ml to 500ml for the slower moving tinters, either direct in to your tins if you take them there, or in 200ml tins sent out to you. One tip: transfer the AM6 Black to a 1 litre tin rather than the 4 litre that it comes in. It is being used less and less now and goes off too quick in the bigger tin.
Did you get binders as well? Don’t know if it’s available there (should be) but consider the L400 binders (AL145 & AL146) for economy jobs and ask about the 510 and 610 binders for 2K and basecoat, respectively. Much cheaper than the 6000 binders and, for 610, if mixed with 30-50% reducer (not 80%) then they cover just as well as the 6000 for a third of the price. Dupont rep told me to do this and it works a treat.
Register for the update CDs through your supplier/distributor. You’ll also need a dedicated PC. They say Pentium 4 with 2Gb RAM but that is very slow. I run a dual core Athlon 2.6GHz with 4Gb RAM and it’s OK. The program is a real hog – you can’t have anything else on that PC or it will slow to a crawl. Get scales that measure to 1/100th gram, not 1/10th gram. These tinters are very strong so you’ll need the extra accuracy.
Sound thanks for all that advice. Trying to get hold of a rep Andy T put me in touch with see it they can help There’s 96 1L tins and 5-7 4l tins. All with heads. I still need to get hold of a software disk etc. and go through all the tins see what’s there
Well been busy but had a few min free today so I grabbed 7 of the 1l tinters and gave them a little warm up with the heat gun then a mix with the heads they had fitted and out of the 7. 6 are perfect now and 3/4 full at least lol only another 90+ to go
Has any1 got the mix cd/file for this ?
The update CDs come out every 3 months but Dupont have got smart over the last couple of years and limited the time that the program will work unless you get a new CD to extend it.
Just about everything is available online, formulae, variations, TDS etc. The only thing you can’t do is link your spectro, if you have one.
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