Dynatone? Anyone have experience here?
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Have any of you used anything from them? the formula 77 or the crystal clear?
http://www.dynatonecorp.com/products.html
I’ve never used them or heard of them before. A quick google on them makes me think they are a low end, probably private labeled brand. One person complained of a yellow tinge with there clear. Is there a particular reason you are looking at them, have you considered SPI or transtar if your looking for an economical line?
I just ran across it and the prices looked decent.
I need to find a clear i like through the internet because i can’t find any in the area that strike my fancy.
I’m just a do it yourselfer so i don’t have 3m represenatives knocking my door down
any website suggestions would be great!
you should really look at spi.
http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com
about the best clear out there and way underpriced for what it is. you just call them to order, shipping is free right to your door. its the only thing i have used in the past 7-8 years or so. everything in my gallery is spi primers and clears.
http://www.xtremekreations.com/gallery.html
[b]jim c wrote:[/b]
[quote]you should really look at spi.http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com
about the best clear out there and way underpriced for what it is. you just call them to order, shipping is free right to your door. its the only thing i have used in the past 7-8 years or so. everything in my gallery is spi primers and clears.
http://www.xtremekreations.com/gallery.html%5B/quote%5D
Awesome, I visited their website and was unsure of how to order. Which clear would you reccomend? I see they have 3 or 4 different types… the omni i have been working with seems like it gets tiny scratches just from the wipe of a cloth that’s not microfiber…
well any fresh clear will do that. it can take months for a clear to fully polymerize and reach its full hardness and scratch resistance. what clear is best for you will depend on what you find important and you spraying style. softer clears buff, scratch and swirl easy but chip alot less. hard clears will chip alot more but scratch less and be more difficult to buff. me personally, i would rather buff out some swirls than fix chips. spi’s ms, universal and hs clears are softer while the euro is much harder. the first 3 are the same clear with different solvent systems so they all spray differently. universal tacks off quick making it harder to run and better for a beginner. ms clear is slower to tack off and a thinner consistancy. hs clear is slow as well with a little bit higher solid content so its much thicker. euro is same resin as well but cat is different. it cures out much faster and harder, stays tacky longer, viscosity is controlled by how much you reduce it but also buffs alot harder. i personally like the ms, euro and universal…in that order. many times if i am clearing twice i will do the inital round with euro, sand smooth with 400 then flow coat with the ms clear. universal clear is their #1 selling clear and what most people use. it is good if your spraying conditions aren’t that good like if you are spraying at home and if you dont have that much time behind a gun.
awesome information thanks a lot Jim!
I think I will try the universal b/c i am spraying at home. Also i have only sprayed clear 4 times in my life as of yet.
that would be good choice for you then. mix ratio is 1:1 so remember 1 gallon of clear and 4 quarts of activator.
SPI for sure. But i’ve found the MS to be a bit more scratch/swirl resistant than the Universal.
It’s also thinner (yet higher in solids) making it easier to shoot; especially working from home.
Can’t go wrong with any their clears, really.What about the Sherwin FC710? is this a softer clear? easy to shoot?
the key to a clean paint job without a booth (aside from a clean garage) would be a fast hardener correct?
I’m sure the key is just trying the products out on my own right?
It’s actually one of SW off lines. Used to be Martin Senior 15410. Now it’s ACME FC710
10 is spot/panel. 20 is overall… (If I remember correctly.)[b]RatStang wrote:[/b]
[quote]It’s actually one of SW off lines. Used to be Martin Senior 15410. Now it’s ACME FC710
10 is spot/panel. 20 is overall… (If I remember correctly.)[/quote]right i read this in another thread…. experiences with this clear? answers to my other questions?
Thanks guys
as for the fast hardener thing…not necessarily. a clear that flashes off fast enough to not be sticky will generally be slightly less prone to having dust stick to it. your area still needs to be clean though. if you are in a dirty area it wont make a bit of difference. the advantage you gain by a clear that is tack free really quick is minimal. also you have to take into consideration what you are spraying. on an overall you will need a clear that flashes slow otherwise by the time you make it all the way around you will be having dry spray issues. on an overall you almost always want a slow activator. most of spi’s clears are designed for the home guy who doesn’t have alot of airflow. euro on the other hand is great in a booth with flow because it stays wet longer. it was more desgined for the body shop rather than the restoration crowd.
SPI MS
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