Ever had a project snowball on you?
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Had a guy at work that went to a car show and won a gallon bc/cc kit of Omni.
He has an old Massey Ferguson 35, w/new fenders and seat pan, asked me if he could use the paint he won on the red parts of the tractor. (I’m thinking hood, grill shell, fenders, seat pan, instrument cluster)…… Told him I didn’t see why not. Seemed simply enough. He said he’d blast the old parts and bring ’em to me.
As the weeks have passed here’s what I’m faced with……….
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Anybody notice that only about 5% of those parts will be red????? (There’s a whole bunch more that aren’t pictured BTW)
Had to have a little chat with him this afternoon about the bill, and how I don’t run a you might as well paint this while you have the paintgun out operation.
Did I mention that I’m expected to haul my equipment over to his place and spray the chassis for him,,, first I heard about that was today. :whistle: He also mentioned that he didn’t expect to put more than $1K in it for materials and labor. :blink:
So much for finding the time to finish my homemade booth.
had a guy in awhile ago wanting the John Deere painted ….. he thought the price was a little high $3000(for hood, grill and fenders)….. I referred him :pcorn: place out of town that brushes truck and tractor parts …… no comparison :whistle:
This guy never even asked for a price. :huh:
After his 6th or 7th trip to drop off parts I started to get a little concerned. :unsure:
Told him I would prep and paint the sheetmetal for him but he will have to sand the rims, gas tank, etc.
All the little bits, links and such I’m just gonna epoxy seal and single stage in one session.
Painting both sides of every single part is a bit of a pain.
[b]bloverby wrote:[/b]
[quote]This guy never even asked for a price. :huh:After his 6th or 7th trip to drop off parts I started to get a little concerned. :unsure:
Told him I would prep and paint the sheetmetal for him but he will have to sand the rims, gas tank, etc.
All the little bits, links and such I’m just gonna epoxy seal and single stage in one session.
Painting both sides of every single part is a bit of a pain.[/quote]
just don’t quite get it …. do they :wak :whistle:
they want a $9000 job for $1500 :rofl oh hey no prob … just move these $10,000 jobs a side and slide you right in :welc :wak :rofl
should be chroming those wheels …. are those Boyde”S :pcorn:
[b]Stone wrote:[/b]
they want a $9000 job for $1500 :rofl oh hey no prob … just move these $10,000 jobs a side and slide you right in :welc :wak :rofl[/quote]
That’s pretty much the chat, I had with the guy today.
Granted I’m a bit more flexible than a shop, because my mortgage will get paid regardless of what is sitting in the shop.
However, with a Chevelle that is paying good $$$ waiting in line behind this thing, I’m getting a little miffed with the seemingly endless barrage of parts this guy keeps dumping on me.
All in all, it’s turning out to be typical of the stuff I do for freinds and co workers.
Charge a flat rate and be done.. Tell him its this or nothing.. I would also tell him to take it anywhere else you want and get a quote and Im sure mine will be less..
Put your quote in writing.. Only takes a few minutes on a computer.. Also in your quote, I would note that the price reflects the above mentioned items and anything else added comes at an additional charge.. Both of you sign it and then he is bound by your legal agreement..
I started doing this last year and it was the smartest thing I have ever done.. Now no matter what a customer may say, I have our “agreement” in writing and its no hassle :pcorn:
Now that’s gravy!
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blow the whole thing in crossfire ss an be done with it afterall its just a tractor not that hard ta do ive painted my share just make sure an get the sheetmetal strait an clean so ya dont have ta rub it
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i shot the 3rd one from the right an the owner wins every show he enters plus i get all his an his familys ins work :cheersSpeaking of Crossfire SS,,, bondo, you got a code for flint gray MF? That’s what I’m doing the bulk of it in,,, the sheet metal will be his free kit of OMNI bc/cc. The rear wheel hubs and grille will be a lighter silver.
Only thing I’m attempting to make look nice are the tins.
This will just be one of those projects, It will get done but my heart isn’t in it. I knew I was in trouble when he started talking about spraying bolt heads to match.
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why in the world woud ya use base an clear on a nice massey like that :blink: your napa store should be able ta produce a formula but stay away!!!from the commercial coatings crap i wouldnt paint an outhouse withthat crap :blush:
Just charge by Hour painting the stuff, But send all the parts back with him that aren’t sandblasted clean tell him they need to be completely rust free spotless and clean, Works For one of my Neighbors he hates how I Like things so clean! and I will clean them for him but I charge 50 hr to do it. :exci
Some of that stuff looks like it has a way to go any way.Bondo gave you excellent advice,you really need to do this with side jobs(ask me how I know)It looks like you can’t turn back now,but if he gives you any hassle tell him that you will help load up his parts and you don’t need the practice anymore.It is so typical of some people that want a showcar job for a maaco price :wak
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[quote]why in the world woud ya use base an clear on a nice massey like that :blink: your napa store should be able ta produce a formula but stay away!!!from the commercial coatings crap i wouldnt paint an outhouse withthat crap :blush:[/quote]The bc/cc is the Omni kit he won at a car show, He had them mix it the correct MF red. It was free and supplied by him,,, Though I’d prefer to do it in SS, I don’t plan on buying any, when the bc is sitting here,,, free.
All the grey stuff will be Crossfire SS.
The whole thing really isn’t a big deal to me. It’ll get done and gone. Just how things go from time to time, probably the biggest drawback of doing work for people you hang out with vs. walk ins.
The guy really does feel bad knowing he pretty much tripled the parts count from what he originally asked to be done vs. what he now wants. :blush: Or at least he feels bad that he didn’t stop to think that all that extra stuff would cost him more money. 😛
I just posted the experience figuring you guys could relate to how people view the cost of doing this stuff. You know the “can’t you just go ahead and spray the whole car while you have the paint in the gun”,,, mentality. :wak
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The guy really does feel bad knowing he pretty much tripled the parts count from what he originally asked to be done vs. what he now wants. Or at least he feels bad that he didn’t stop to think that all that extra stuff would cost him more money. [/quote]That’s EXACTLY how it goes. But the real problem is when it gets in the way of important jobs that
actually pays the bills. But, i told a fella i’m doing similar work for just that.
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