Flat Rate vs Straight Time
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Tried to find an area where I could submit a poll ,this is all I could find.Was wondering how many of you are on flat rate and how many are’nt.It seems it’s getting harder to find shops that pay flat rate.What a scorch .
I”ve created a poll for you on the main page we can run for a while, I’ll look into adding support to create your own in the forum.
I work salary myself, I prefer having the consistency. I’m sure theirs more money to be made flat rate in the right spot.
flat rate leads to poor quality …. at least this is my finding
I agree with you to some point, but theirs still some high quality flat rate shops out their & many low quality salary shops!
Now a days in the DRP shops anyway flat rate repair and replacement times are down to almost staight time so a shop that paid a decent salary doesnt sound bad.
Thats what I used to run into, bodyman. When I got an update for the database, I’d re-enter a job from a year ago exactly the same, and the labor would drop as much a 10%!
On flat rate you should get a little faster each time you do a procedure, to a point, and then they cut the time down and it seems you are spinning your wheels trying to become more efficient and profitable.
That used to be the benefit of working at a dealer shop. You would work on one or two vehicle lines, and paint maybe eight different colors. You could get good and fast, and knock down some money. Now, the dealer shops sold out, and you have to bust a nut to make a dollar.
I think if you could somehow get shops to pay a decent salary (and I mean decent, not 10 bucks an hour) it might force shops to start charging a more reasonable rate and help keep them from giving away the farm at the techs expense.
The database providors have really helped put the hammer down on the industry. The DEG may help a little, but it would take a whole lot more participation.
JMT’s
Jim
I prefer flat rate over strait time. As an employee salary sounds good especially if you are getting old.
shops should charge more and pay more :whistle:
no more fucking around B)oooo :blush: no censorship B)
flat rate all the way. I can work with my thumb up my ass, do good work going slow, and still make double what the owners in my neck o the woods are willing to pony up(hourly wages).
That’s what I find too.You can take it easy and preety much double you’re time,go go flat rate,but keep the quality up or you’re redoing it for free next time.
[b]bodyman369 wrote:[/b]
[quote]Now a days in the DRP shops anyway flat rate repair and replacement times are down to almost staight time so a shop that paid a decent salary doesnt sound bad.[/quote]agree
Jim iI do the same thing and somtimes its more like 25%.and more operations are INCL. all the time.this keeps up and I swear im going write the as fix car paint car and here’s the bill.back on topic Im salary and on resto 45% commision on top of salary.everyone else wanted flat rate .
Having worked in both types of shops,flat rate all the way providing repair times and estimates done properly. I have worked with good quality flat rate and straight time bodymen and painters and my take is that if you are good enough the quality does not suffer in flat rate shops. It comes down to pride in workmanship.If you are a hack,it doesn’t matter whether you are straight time or flat rate. I like to know that when you see the estimate you know exactly how much time you get and you can either speed up or coast. I would rather make gains than to see all the time I have made go to the house.
[b]hiredgun wrote:[/b]
[quote]If you are a hack,it doesn’t matter whether you are straight time or flat rate. [/quote]good point!
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