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  • May 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm #37057

    I have a Lincoln Navigator that is coming in this week because the owner is not happy with the seam sealer in the roof ditch. We replaced the roof skin and used 3m 08307 flowable seam sealer on the roof and it turned out decent, pretty close to the factory seam sealer but it honestly looks like crap like most of those roof ditches do. It seams that the 3m stuff sets up to quickly before it really has a chance to completely flow out. Does anyone have any tips on different products/techniques to use to do this. I did one last week and cut a spreader down to help it along the way and it did help but it still had the typical waves to it. We tried to explain this to the owner but he still is not happy with the job. I ended up blocking and priming and reapplying another coat to the one that I did last week. (that sucked btw!)I know that someone here has a good trick or two to get this stuff looking good for those really particular customers.

    Thanks

    Chuck

    May 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm #37058

    I know the stuff you are talking about, you definitely have to work quick with it. Fusor has a similar product,122/123EZ, I believe is a little slower, but may not be slow enough for a large roof like that. Fusor also has the 129 seam sealer that is a little thicker. May not flow as well, but I believe you could sand this stuff smooth if needed, once it cures

    I have also used the 3M brushable seam sealer to fill them as it is slow enough and you can work it, but it is hard to get it looking 100%. I like to load it up in there, then smooth it out with a wet finger…Fusor has the 800EZ (1 part, in a caulking tube) this stuff is great for some areas and very workable. It doesn’t flow a whole lot, but it is thick and super nice to work with. You might be able to smooth this stuff out enough, and for a 1 part product it is surprisingly durable.

    I gather this guy wants the drip rail perfectly straight and smooth and won’t settle for factory quality…only better 🙂

    May 29, 2012 at 6:33 pm #37060

    I thought it was only me with customers like that.

    May 30, 2012 at 12:54 am #37061

    I’ve had pretty good luck with the SEM self leveling seam sealer. flows out pretty smooth. biggest issue I’ve had with it is air bubbles popping up. One thing you might try is multiple thin layers

    May 30, 2012 at 2:56 am #37062

    FoMoCo does a rough job on a lot of those, gotta love the customers that always want better than OE. The factory can do it, but don’t you dare. Sometimes people just have to be difficult to be happy.
    Anyway, i’ve had excellent luck with Crest Black Jack CB-J2 controlled flow seam sealer and Pliogrip by Valvoline Self Leveling 12 #8010 . I’ve tried most of the better known sealers and i like the results of these the best so far. One thing i did do that makes life so much better on long runs like that is to buy a Cox battery operated dual mix applicator gun #80200. They’re kinda pricey, but worth it, especially once you get the hang of using it.

    May 30, 2012 at 6:32 am #37063

    I found a video on youtube on the fusor 122ez (Roof Ditch Self-Leveling Seam Sealer Application – 122EZ) looked like it worked pretty good. I might try that on the next one. (the Navigator that we did a few weeks ago) It seems like I have been getting at least one a week that is a pain in the a@@. I guess that is what happens when they really dont want their cars fixed.

    Chuck

    May 31, 2012 at 3:31 pm #37074

    +1 for the Fusor 122. Flows out nice.

    June 4, 2012 at 5:54 am #37105

    Well the seam sealer turned out good enough to make the customer happy along with the rest of the job but it still didnt leave friday when scheduled. He didnt realize how bad his front bumper cover looked until it was butted up against the rest of the new paint. So I will get to do that monday. I ordered some of the fuzor to try out on the next one. (we have had nothing but hail jobs the last month or two) On another note does anyone else here paint the roof skins before putting new ones on? We have been doing that for about the past year or so and it makes life so much easier. Especially on Suburbans or Expeditions.

    Chuck

    June 4, 2012 at 10:11 pm #37108

    i have had really good luck with the evercoat maxim stuff. all epoxy base. flows out real nice and you have some good working time.

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