glazing stickiness burning through paper.
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Okay I’m sure everyone has experienced that paper clogging initial layer when glazing, especially in colder seasons, and when reducing fillers. It’s hardly noticeable on small repairs but when your dealing with glazing full glass body parts, or full panels it can get pretty annoying chucking that much paper.
So you guys got any tricks?
I know using products like rage extreme rather than glazes helps. but it’s still present.
I’ve heard of initially wiping with wax and grease remover but never had amazing results.So what do you do. let’s hear it.
I found wiping with lacquer thinner cleans a little away and makes the remaining harden up some when the thinner flashes off … gets the scum on top out of the way. :kofee
for this same reason i like using USC icing because it doesnt leave a sticky residue. it flows great and doesnt pinhole like the other glazes
[quote=”MoCoke” post=17009]for this same reason i like using USC icing because it doesnt leave a sticky residue. it flows great and doesnt pinhole like the other glazes[/quote]
I agree, the icing seems to be one of the best in that regards. On a note, the Pro-Form Flowable Putty (PF-168) seems identical and is a little cheaper.
What paper brand and grit are you using? Generally I keep the old half dull sheets around to take a few quick strokes to remove the waxy residue before putting on a good sheet of paper. I usually start my putty with 120. At work we have a mix of old SIA blue-line and Norton Campaign papers, both seem good (better than the purple 3M hook-it II).
Another option is to start sanding it before it is fully hardened. Just a few quick swipes while it is still a little soft to take off the top layer. Then leave it until it is fully set up. Use old crap paper for this since it will obviously clog it.
I’m interested to hear what others have to say.
i like the keystone flowable putty..its got keystone label on it but not sure who makes it…
A lot of the keystone stuff is Evercoat products.
Never looked into that one though.Some times the resin will settle and separate,if you take the top off and mix it with a coat hanger or screwdriver it will help.Nothing worse than squeezing out some putty and most of it is resin,that can cause the film.IMO the best flowable putty is upol dolphin glaze or liquid gold,the evercoat stuff just seems like it is going downhill.I would rather use marson platinum or USC progold ES for filler and upol for putty.
[quote=”MoCoke” post=17009]for this same reason i like using USC icing because it doesnt leave a sticky residue. it flows great and doesnt pinhole like the other glazes[/quote]
I like the icing or the matrix glaze…they seem to leave the least amount of waxy layer i have found.
the icing is 18 bucks a tube and the matrix is 20.[quote=”Jayson M” post=17024]Some times the resin will settle and separate,if you take the top off and mix it with a coat hanger or screwdriver it will help.Nothing worse than squeezing out some putty and most of it is resin,that can cause the film.IMO the best flowable putty is upol dolphin glaze or liquid gold,the evercoat stuff just seems like it is going downhill.I would rather use marson platinum or USC progold ES for filler and upol for putty.[/quote]
I like the Carsystem Eurogold filler (which is similar, but easier to sand to the 3M gold). I would think the U-Pol filler is similar. As for putties, I like the U-Pol gold and the Casrsystem. Next to them I like the icing. I like really thin flowable putty, so the icing is almost too thick for me.
[quote=”Ben” post=17028][quote=”Jayson M” post=17024]Some times the resin will settle and separate,if you take the top off and mix it with a coat hanger or screwdriver it will help.Nothing worse than squeezing out some putty and most of it is resin,that can cause the film.IMO the best flowable putty is upol dolphin glaze or liquid gold,the evercoat stuff just seems like it is going downhill.I would rather use marson platinum or USC progold ES for filler and upol for putty.[/quote]
I like the Carsystem Eurogold filler (which is similar, but easier to sand to the 3M gold). I would think the U-Pol filler is similar. As for putties, I like the U-Pol gold and the Casrsystem. Next to them I like the icing. I like really thin flowable putty, so the icing is almost too thick for me.[/quote]
the matrix is like sgueeze butter you would love itI pile on a giant glob of filler, and use a cheese grater or 36 grit on a hand block to get it down close to the right shape :rock
I’ve never had a problem with paper clogging :dnc
rage extreme is wonderful stuff. I’ve never had a pinhole problem with it that primer won’t fill. I have been using the evercoat metal glaze with good success, but I haven’t tried all these brands you guys are mentioning….
Actually Ben carsystem Eurogold is re-packaged rage gold.Upol flyweight gold is European and made in the UK 2 very different products 😉
have to agree with jason on both. love the dolphin glaze, never sticky and i have never been crazy about alot of evercoat fillers. atleast every two years they have bad batches with cracking problems. i do like many of their other products but fillers of any kind are questionable to say the least. none that they make can comapre to the marson platinum or +. i have heard many great thing about that upol filler but have not used it.
Upol flyweight gold is good stuff goes on like butter.. 😉
jeez i need ta quit metal finishing everything so i can understand what all u boys are talking about:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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