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  • July 31, 2009 at 5:35 am #15072

    i wanted to put a link to this tutorial here. some of you guys who have been members of the spi forum for a while probably have already seen this so just ignore it but for the rest of you who dont get a chance to do alot of designs or graphic work you may find it helpful or interesting. anyway this was a tutorial i did on the spi board a long time ago, back in 06.

    http://spi.forumup.org/viewtopic.php?t=841&mforum=spi

    August 1, 2009 at 2:51 am #15085

    This is a good one!

    Will you be doing more? If/when time permits of course..

    August 1, 2009 at 4:09 am #15086

    hmmm? 2006 since the last one, i guess its a bit overdue. i will have to do another one i guess. you know i have a t-bucket here that i am just starting. i’ll document with pics then do one on that as it should be pretty killer when done.

    August 1, 2009 at 5:59 pm #15100

    Cool link. I have always wanted to learn how to do graphics but I have zero artistic talent! :S

    Keep the pictures coming.

    Just out of curiosity if I wanted to learn what would be a good way to start?

    August 1, 2009 at 6:16 pm #15101

    Jim, yes, it is about time. Heck, It doesn’t have to be a full write-up; pics of various
    stages will work. Maybe some hints along the way. 🙂

    Ryan, i started with a simple ghost flame job. And Jim here was the guy who helped me out.
    It’s like a slightly more elaborate two tone job. OK, a lot more.

    August 1, 2009 at 11:54 pm #15108

    ryan, there are alot of educational videos out there. a great source for them is http://www.smartflix.com. instead of buying them for $40 each you can just rent them, burn a copy for yourself for future refrence and return it. besides that you just need to start playing around with it on some of your own projects. its alot of trial and error but thats how you learn.

    August 12, 2009 at 8:41 pm #15316

    I was going to post a reply to this thread last week and I got all side tracked readying about how to and then checking out that web site to rent videos from I forgot all about posting a reply! :blush:

    Jim
    Wow! :exci what a bunch of good info thank you! :exci
    I am looking forward to learning more and then trying my hand at a few things!

    August 13, 2009 at 2:21 am #15327

    well i have been taking progress pics of the t-bucket project. it’ll be about 3 weeks before its done but when it is i will do another write up. this project will be a bit more complex so it should be interesting! 😉

    August 13, 2009 at 6:19 pm #15341

    We’ll be waiting patiently. No sneek previews?

    August 14, 2009 at 4:33 am #15353

    :rofl :rofl :rofl uhhhhhh!!! NO! 😛

    August 16, 2009 at 10:40 pm #15380

    Here’s a question for when doing graphics. stripes, and what not.

    Whenever I mask out a stripe. Rather I use Blue Fine line. or 3M 233+
    Rather I wait 5 hours for the base to dry. or 30 hours.

    the masking tape always seems to leave a slight discoloration.
    It doesn’t seem like Adhesive, Because I can’t physically feel it.

    Usually I’ll go over it with a water based Wax and grease remover just to see if I can’t have some effect on it.
    But it usually does nothing.

    But I’ve never noticed it visible when I clear over it.

    So I guess my question is what are we supposed to do with these stripes left by masking tape?
    What is causing it?
    And Is there a way to fix it? Or do we just move on?
    Am I just lucky that it isn’t visible? or does everyone have the same results with all colors?

    August 17, 2009 at 4:54 am #15384

    hmmm, i cant say i have noticed any discoloration. sometimes tape will leave marks in the base if the base has not hardened up all the way but with any good base system it should be dry enough to put tape on in 5 hours and not leave marks. i dont know if the “marks” are what you are refering to or you are seeing an actual color difference. many times i will shoot a color in the afternoon and i will wait until the next morening and mask right on it with no problems and many times i dont use an intercoat clear at all. what paint do you usually use?

    August 17, 2009 at 6:34 am #15385

    I had a battle with tape tracks on a bike tank I did a few weeks ago.

    Sprayed Crossfire black base followed by HOK SG100, then headed to work, 8 hours later I scuff sanded the SG100 and let it sit overnight.

    Next morning I spent a good bit of time taping out some flames with blue fine line then headed to work again. Came home that evening to find what looked like someone had taken a razor blade and scored all around the edges of the blue fine line = the tape ate into the SG100.

    I don’t know if it was the fact that the SG100 was pretty old,,,, the temps were over 95 F and humidity at about 60%,,,,,, that I let the stuff sit taped for too long,,,,, or what but it made a pretty good mess.

    I pulled the tape, sanded the tank back down smooth, shot 2 coats of black base followed by 3 coats of Topcoat Clear then waited until the weekend to give it another go.

    The fenders stayed in intercoat for a few days and the tank had 1 day old sanded urethane clear on it when I did the tapework again.

    Frustrated with the previous attempt I decided to keep the flames super simple since it was a budget job, Got the tape on and off in pretty short order with no issues on the second go round.

    First time I’ve had that much of an issue with SG100, but I usually don’t leave stuff taped and sitting either.

    :whistle:

    Came out OK :unsure: I couldn’t get a picture of it where it isn’t covered in dust.

    [IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/bloverby/virago25.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/bloverby/virago24.jpg[/IMG]

    August 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm #15386

    your problem is sg100. you should not be using that product. it has major problems. tape will always leave marks in it. problem is that it is a very weak, soft and gummy paint. even after a few days it just wont harden up. at one time i had a gallon lying around here where there was some on the top of the can around the cap. it sat for 6 months or more and i could still easily stick my findernail in it and scrape it off. i have seen so many paintjobs fail from the use of it its not even funny. if the part gets out in the sun or is near exhaust….anywhere it will get hot the sg will get so soft your clear delaminates and bubbles off. anyway i stopped using it years ago. this was the main reason i pushed barry from spi to make his intercoat clear. i did a bunch of testing for him on it. you can tape on it in 15-30 min and it wont leave marks. its really nice stuff. give that a try or stick with the same brand of paint you normally use. why do you think hok came out with sg150??

    August 17, 2009 at 8:02 pm #15387

    I’ve used a good bit of SG100 over the years, can’t say i’ve had any bubbling/peeling problems thus far. I’ve always been disappointed in the dry time associated with it though,, does seem to stay gummy.

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