health solventvs water
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would like to know what others think of what is more harmful to a painter, water or solvent.
in terms of mixing im sure water is safer but when it comes to spraying exposure, is water more harmful for the painter?like most thing’s… if its better for the enviroment its worse for you :unsure:
thats what i thought. had a sata rep come in today to try to sell us air filtration and fresh air and when he told the owner that water is actually worse for the painter she had never heard that. and seemed surprised and i think she thought the gut was just bullshitting her
Water is more easily absorbed by the body.
To be honest all of this stuff is extremely harmful to the body. Fresh air should be used for any of it.
thats crazy I had no idea, never assumed that because on the cans of base/tinters(water)
and the water activator, the precautionary label pretty much says the product has not
been shown to cause immediate toxicological damage to lab animals. whereas on a can of solvent anything really, there are many health precautions on the can. I mean obviously its not good for your lungs to be breathing in paint, but I always thought water wouldnt be as harmful.. its just water lolIts not Water thats where it gets ya, Its an Ether/Alcohol/Water mix
[quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=19879]Water is more easily absorbed by the body.
To be honest all of this stuff is extremely harmful to the body. Fresh air should be used for any of it.[/quote]
man I wish i had fresh air, the booth I use has no fresh air and gets pretty foggy when im clearing, the thing is a pure cancer box man. Ive also been feeling quite sick by the end of the day (headache, stomach discomfort) if I breathe in the smallest ammount of anything containing isocyantes it seems. The stuff never used to bother me, and now it seems I can barely work out a full day now.. even when wearing my respirator all day.
Ya I here ya, Have to get filter elements replaced more often in your respirator
To bad they couldn’t make it more healthier for us.
[quote=”5LEater” post=19911][quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=19879]Water is more easily absorbed by the body.
To be honest all of this stuff is extremely harmful to the body. Fresh air should be used for any of it.[/quote]
man I wish i had fresh air, the booth I use has no fresh air and gets pretty foggy when im clearing, the thing is a pure cancer box man. Ive also been feeling quite sick by the end of the day (headache, stomach discomfort) if I breathe in the smallest ammount of anything containing isocyantes it seems. The stuff never used to bother me, and now it seems I can barely work out a full day now.. even when wearing my respirator all day.[/quote]
Dude, that’s some serious shit. You need to get checked by a doc for sensitivity.
You could change filters every hour and it won’t help. You need fresh air. Systems can be put together for not a lot of money.
Painting is not all that bad if you take the precautions.
[quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=19913][quote=”5LEater” post=19911][quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=19879]Water is more easily absorbed by the body.
To be honest all of this stuff is extremely harmful to the body. Fresh air should be used for any of it.[/quote]
man I wish i had fresh air, the booth I use has no fresh air and gets pretty foggy when im clearing, the thing is a pure cancer box man. Ive also been feeling quite sick by the end of the day (headache, stomach discomfort) if I breathe in the smallest ammount of anything containing isocyantes it seems. The stuff never used to bother me, and now it seems I can barely work out a full day now.. even when wearing my respirator all day.[/quote]
Dude, that’s some serious shit. You need to get checked by a doc for sensitivity.
You could change filters every hour and it won’t help. You need fresh air. Systems can be put together for not a lot of money.
Painting is not all that bad if you take the precautions.[/quote]
I don’t know about where you are, but here it is required by law that your employer has a fresh air system installed/working. I’d definitely want to see a Doctor ASAP. Killing yourself isn’t worth it.
You have to understand, isocyanates don’t enter just through your lungs. They are attracted to moisture. That means your mouth, nose and eyes will soak them up like a sponge! it will even get sucked in through your skin. That’s your body bro, you only get one of em
getting a little off topic from the water issue I know, but it’s worth mentioning :hij:
Officially the second documented point of entry is the eye’s
Everyone should wear full face airfed mask’s, or at the very least a half face airfed mask.
I have noticed that a lot of guys on your side of the pond still use charcoal respirator mask’s, personally i would never ask or expect anyone to paint a car wearing one of those .
[quote=”nick@dunsdale” post=19919]
Everyone should wear full face airfed mask’s, or at the very least a half face airfed mask.
I have noticed that a lot of guys on your side of the pond still use charcoal respirator mask’s, personally i would never ask or expect anyone to paint a car wearing one of those .[/quote]
Thats one thing I hate over here Nick. Hardly any shops supply fresh air. I spent the coin and bought my own, that way if I go, it comes with me. I used a charcoal mask for quite a few years and could kick myself in the ass for not getting fresh air sooner.
Whats the damage on one of those systems Ryan? I don’t even know. When I first started painting I used a charcoal mask just because I was naive, there was a brand new SATA vision hanging on the wall. Then after going to school and using the SATA vision there I set up ours and am not looking back. There is nothing equal to fresh air
I’ve probably got $900 in mine. I have a Sata Vision unit with carbon monoxide monitor and the wall mounted 3-stage filter unit. Some of it I bought new and the filter unit was bought used for a real good price and I rebuilt it. The filter unit alone new is 2k. The Devilbiss filter units work good also but for the price I got the Sata for I couldn’t pass it up.
The way I look at it even if it was 3k and I had to pony up the money myself, it is still way cheaper than a set of lungs or the money I would loose by not being able to work.
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