Hey All. Inexperienced noob here with a couple ?’s

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  • July 20, 2011 at 4:06 am #31808

    Hey everybody!!

    The short version is that I haven’t painted a car in 20 years, and that was a single stage enamel. I am getting ready to paint my Z, which I have been working on restoring since february, and honestly it’s got me scared to death, but I couldn’t afford the 3500 to 5500 shops around here wanted to paint it.

    So anyway, I am painting it starting with PPG shopline jp315 sealer, shopline base coat, and JC660 clear coat, all with slow activator. I want to get it painted this week, but it isn’t going to drop below about 80 all week, and I m curious about time in between coats. the guy at the supply place said 30 to 40 minutes after sealer I can apply the base, with 10 minutes or so between coats on it, and about 15 minutes in between the coats of clear. He painted for years and years, but hasn’t in a while, so I just wanna make sure he is on with his advice.

    BTW, I know you guys who have done this stuff forever get tired of answering these questions, so your help is really, really appreciated.

    Eric

    July 20, 2011 at 5:23 am #31810

    That sounds about right. Although you can ask for the tech sheet for the product you are using. This hot weather can make it harder to lay out a smooth clear on an overall but with the slow activator you will be fine. On a overall by the time you are done with your first coat, you should be able to start right in on your second. Good Luck

    July 20, 2011 at 8:49 am #31816

    yep +1

    those time all look correct and the temp should not be a problem unless its over 95 so go for it and tell us how it went. :weights

    July 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm #31817

    [quote=”Wydir” post=21375]yep +1

    those time all look correct and the temp should not be a problem unless its over 95 so go for it and tell us how it went. :weights[/quote]

    I totally agree…I too came back to body work and paint after a twenty year rest and the first victim was my own car. I painted it in a paint booth where the thermometer read 121 degrees (can you say clear coat orange peel supreme, haha). Follow these experts, they will not lead you wrong and welcome to the site.

    July 21, 2011 at 5:10 am #31823

    ENcobb–

    I hadn’t painted a vehicle in 10-12 years but I really enjoy the whole auto body thing, for me it’s a hobby. I just did an overall on my brother’s 1999 Jeep Cherokee in “Silverstone Pearl Metallic” with PPG Shop Line single stage urethane on top of PPG Shop Line epoxy primer and got mottling in 3-4 places. My brother’s compressor is pretty small, so I used conventional guns, a Devilbiss JGA for the primer, and a Devilbiss MBC for top coat. My brother was happy with the finish but I was bummed because I always want to be proud of my work, hobby or not. This was my first experience with mottling after doing approximately 15 overalls in the past, but I usually used basecoat/clearcoat, which a lot of experienced people say is more forgiving. There are other possible factors with mottling too, such as operator error, so whatever, I’ll take the hit regardless. Still, depending on your color choice, (apparently, silver is especially prone to mottling but other light colors can show it too), you might want to consider using BC/CC. After all of the hours and blood, sweat, and tears to get to the painting part, it sucks to have quality problems. I hope you get a great result!

    July 21, 2011 at 5:17 am #31824

    ENcobb–

    I hadn’t painted a vehicle in 10-12 years but I really enjoy the whole auto body thing, for me it’s a hobby. I just did an overall on my brother’s 1999 Jeep Cherokee in “Silverstone Pearl Metallic” with PPG Shop Line single stage urethane on top of PPG Shop Line epoxy primer and got mottling in 3-4 places. My brother’s compressor is pretty small, so I used conventional guns, a Devilbiss JGA for the primer, and a Devilbiss MBC for top coat. My brother was happy with the finish but I was bummed because I always want to be proud of my work, hobby or not. This was my first experience with mottling after doing approximately 15 overalls in the past, but I usually used basecoat/clearcoat, which a lot of experienced people say is more forgiving. There are other possible factors with mottling too, such as operator error, so whatever, I’ll take the hit regardless. Still, depending on your color choice, (apparently, silver is especially prone to mottling but other light colors can show it too), you might want to consider using BC/CC. After all of the hours and blood, sweat, and tears to get to the painting part, it sucks to have quality problems. I hope you get a great result!

    July 21, 2011 at 5:19 am #31825

    Sorry, I misread, you ARE using BC/CC, great! :nothingtoad

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