Hi all, needing some advice
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Hello all, My dad, my wife and I own a small collision shop. The reason I have found this site is my search for reviews and such on low VOC base coats that shops in my area will be required to use come July of this year. Its a huge decision and hopefully I can get some info on some of the products so I can make an informed decision. Thanks for reading.
If you are dead set against WB I would look at the low voc solvent from basf(onyx solvent) or dupont cromax mosaic.From what I have heard they seem to be pretty good systems with good color match and user friendly.I have not had a chance to spray either one so check it out for yourself.
I have tried mosaic I believe it was DX on a ford it is a dark met blue. It seemed cloudy on side cast almost like it blushed or something. The reducer slash activator is cloudy and its mixed 1:2 The Dupont rep came out and asked some questions and took what we had left in the can. But it was a cloudy day and you couldn’t see it really. Seems they golf on sunny days, I haven’t heard back.
As far as using water my options with my jobber, we go back to mid 70s are. standoblue and chromapro I believe they are the same base with diff primers and clear. Or sherwins offerings I don’t really need the extra expense of water. I’m worried about pricing my self out of work already using standoxs solvent based system. I got a little bad blood with DuPont because when they bought standox they wanted to start charging for formula retrieval. We have shot standox since 1994, I don’t care for DuPont.
I have had other jobbers come in offering a free bank of toners and a line of primers and clears. Just not sure about them. We spray in an old devilbiss booth without an air makeup just a big unit heater 15 feet or so away from intake doors. We can move a lot of air it just gets expensive. I really wish my jobber carried basf and ppg. I don’t know.Hi there magnolene
I must say I agree with jay and cstss with basf rm,I use rm onyx and I’m spraying 100% sovent and its cut my jobs in half I would highly recommend it, if you have any question just ask[quote=”Magnolene” post=34819]I have tried mosaic I believe it was DX on a ford it is a dark met blue. It seemed cloudy on side cast almost like it blushed or something. The reducer slash activator is cloudy and its mixed 1:2 The Dupont rep came out and asked some questions and took what we had left in the can. But it was a cloudy day and you couldn’t see it really. Seems they golf on sunny days, I haven’t heard back.
As far as using water my options with my jobber, we go back to mid 70s are. standoblue and chromapro I believe they are the same base with diff primers and clear. Or sherwins offerings I don’t really need the extra expense of water. I’m worried about pricing my self out of work already using standoxs solvent based system. I got a little bad blood with DuPont because when they bought standox they wanted to start charging for formula retrieval. We have shot standox since 1994, I don’t care for DuPont.
I have had other jobbers come in offering a free bank of toners and a line of primers and clears. Just not sure about them. We spray in an old devilbiss booth without an air makeup just a big unit heater 15 feet or so away from intake doors. We can move a lot of air it just gets expensive. I really wish my jobber carried basf and ppg. I don’t know.[/quote]If I understood this correctly, your supplier can get you DuPont, Standox or Sherwin Williams and you prefer not dealing with DuPont.
Sherwin Williams waterbourne is a good product (I have been using it for 2.5 years now). It is a little more economical than most of the other waterbourne systems out there, and other than a few quirks (like all low voc systems) I have nothing bad to say about it. They also have a low VOC solvent system (ATX line).
If you have no experience with low voc systems (solvent or water) then whatever you go with will take some getting use to. Try getting demos done with as many products as you can (including water).
As for cost, why would it cut too deep into your bottom line? Are you unable to increase what you charge for paint materials accordingly?
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