HOK silver
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Has anybody on here shot the HOK Metalic silver. I think it is called Orion Silver. What did you think? Did you use their clear?
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Hello. I have used and use HOK. Good product if you know how to use it. Its old school type bc/cc. Strong and glossy and cheap. The deal is you want to use the whole system to be sure you dont have any issues. Make sure to follow the tech sheets for each product. You can download the pdf tech book at hok.com. Orion silver is very touchy. You need to have perfect gun control. And on your last coat mix 2 to 1 1/2. And raise up or lower you psi over booth. Whatever you have to do to achieve orientation. There new clear usco1 is the easiest to spray IMHO,and seems to be the cheapest.Uc 35 is there main clear. Also good,but harder to spray,not that its hard to spray. Just dont pound there clear on and watch flash times and it will be great. Good luck.
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I have never shot Silver but I have shot Lemans Blue Metalic and it came out great. Is it much harder than that?
I also don’t have an expensive gun but it worked great on the last paint job I did so hope it is good enough for this.
I would use their system if I use them.
Would you suggest another mfg. for silver other than HOK.
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EBTry these hok bases for silver they are smaller flake size than Bco2.Which means they will be easier for you to make look better. Pbc 42,pbc49. and Fbc02. I would give you other brands but there gonna be way more expensive.HoK is as cheap as i go. I use cheap clears some times but never cheap bases.
Thank you for the info.
I am not really worried about the cost of the paint it was just one I was looking at. It is not that cost doesn’t matter either but I would pay more for a good paint that would look good and be as easy as it can be to shoot. So I would not mind hearing other brands that you think might fill the bill.
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EBTo be honest with you nothing is gonna be easy for you since you dont have gun time. Buy some cheap stuff and practice. Sorry but thats the truth. They dont call it body “work” because its easy. Any major brand will work. Its just when you get into color match of o.e..and durability and speed do things seperate.
I guess a little background would have helped in this thread. I have done bodywork and painting since I was 18 years old, as a hobby, and while in the service painted everything from a sedan to an F4 Phantom jet. I have years of gun time. I am now 59 years old and paint only as part of my hobby, so I am not a novice.
My post was only trying to find a silver that might be more forgiving than others. I am sure I can figure out my way through it but I was hoping that someone had already gone down the road I am at and could help me past some of the bumps.
That being said, Thanks for your help.EJB, I always use Dupount Chroma base for silver, I used to use Diamount and it works too. Other bases give me problems with streaking or clouds. I have only heard good things about HOK, but neve have sprayed it. The clouds and streaks are caused by the flakes NOT laying down, then the clear coat makes them flop wrong. A slower reduced also helps the flake LAY. Chromabase is a bit pricey but it works great.
Thanks for the info,
I will look into DuPont paint here.
Do you stick with the dupont clear. If not what clear do you use.
Do you do a drop coat? If so do you color sand, lightly after the last coat?
EB
Just to get some simple facts straight and not to step on anybodys toes, but streaking, modeling(cloudy) are from lack of proper gun control or lack of training for said product. Not because one product is easier to spray than another. With single stage met an exception. If you get streaking or modeling their are many things you can do to get rid of it.thus the whole reason someone would be a professional painter. Tricks of the trade. And although these tricks are basic they pretty much apply across the whole spectrum of painting base coat.Solvent and waterborne are differnt,but still close to the same. If you really want a metalic to be easy to spray,use a smaller flake size. If you want to still know which sprays the best look at waterborne hands down.If you dont have experience with a silver or gold then nothing not even differnt paint lines is gonna help. You need practice with slivers and golds with large flake. Once you can master the even orientaion regardless of brand than you can paint anything……lol….hope you get the point man.
I have 18 years experience as a Technical Rep and have found Chromabase to be the worst to spray. JMO.
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[quote=”protek9543″ post=27521]I have 18 years experience as a Technical Rep and have found Chromabase to be the worst to spray. JMO.[/quote]
Its not that bad….. but its not that great either
Badson23,
Thank you for your input. I do get your point. I think I will buy a small amount and paint an extra door I have. That will answer whether I got what it takes.
EBWhatever paint system you end up using make sure you get a tds for it. Most of the time you can download it. Use the appropriate reducer for the conditions. Take some time and clean your gun, check your spray pattern on some masking paper and give each coat appropriate flash times. If you are going to use a drop coat make sure you read the tech sheet for recommendations , each company likes it done a little different. If you want the easiest spraying look at Sikkens or lesonal if you can find it in your area. I used to love DuPont until spraying Sikkens. JMO though.
Chuck
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