How to properly Set up your Iwata
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Aston martins are colour sanded and polished up by machine in the factory as are Bentleys and Lamborghinis wich are hand painted at every stage. Although time consuming the ultimate glass finish would be to clear coat as normal then after few days curing sand down clear(being careful not to rub through)and re clear.This gives u lots of material to flatten out and should polish up very nicely like glass.
[quote=”der2906″ post=24746]Aston martins are colour sanded and polished up by machine in the factory [/quote]
The last I heard they were using the Iwata W400WBX gun too :dnc although they may have swapped to the supernova by now.
[quote=”Andy T” post=24747][quote=”der2906″ post=24746]Aston martins are colour sanded and polished up by machine in the factory [/quote]
The last I heard they were using the Iwata W400WBX gun too :dnc although they may have swapped to the supernova by now.[/quote]
If the used a Sata they wouldnt have to sand and buff em :pIt’s hard to beat the advice given from the earlier comments, glass like finishes out of the gun are tough, but you can get close with experience, practice and patience. ( and luck 😛 ) Just remember flatter isn’t always better. On overalls, knock yourself out, on collision work it’s a no-no unless the OE finish is flat.
When i bought my Supernova, it was before the hybrid tip came out. Never much cared for the gun compared to my W400 so it sat in the bottom of my box. I eventually bought the hybrid tip/needle/cap…still didn’t like it. Left the hybrid tip on and went back to the original cap…voila, nice spraying gun. If anything it might spray clear too flat for most collision work. I use it mainly on cars with flatter OE finishes. if you want flatter with your hybrid, maybe try a non hybrid air cap and see if you like the results. The cap does make a big difference in the way that gun sprays.[quote=”buzz” post=24750]It’s hard to beat the advice given from the earlier comments, glass like finishes out of the gun are tough, but you can get close with experience, practice and patience. ( and luck 😛 ) Just remember flatter isn’t always better. On overalls, knock yourself out, on collision work it’s a no-no unless the OE finish is flat.
When i bought my Supernova, it was before the hybrid tip came out. Never much cared for the gun compared to my W400 so it sat in the bottom of my box. I eventually bought the hybrid tip/needle/cap…still didn’t like it. Left the hybrid tip on and went back to the original cap…voila, nice spraying gun. If anything it might spray clear too flat for most collision work. I use it mainly on cars with flatter OE finishes. if you want flatter with your hybrid, maybe try a non hybrid air cap and see if you like the results. The cap does make a big difference in the way that gun sprays.[/quote]Jesus. This is why I made multiple posts all over the internet and talked with suppliers to come to what I thought would be the best gun for shooting flat and they told me 1.3 hybrid… I just don’t understand why not everyone is on the same page. If there’s one correct way to spray and one best gun to use, how come the community has not figured this out? I don’t understand why there should ever be any kind of confusion.
NO 2 PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING… WTF!!!!!!!Like some of the replys before say there is so many variables when painting a car ,there is no one set way ever.No two painters ever spray the same, all have suttle differences in technique. Things like humidity, temperature of panels, paint viscosity, paint type, enviroment your working in , your spraying technique plus hundreds more all matter aswell.People give advice based on there own exprience theyve had over countless years of doing the job, take all the advice, get your gun and start spraying (its the only way) experiment and remember the advice given then do what works for you. practice practice practice is the only way you become efficient in anything in life.Enjoy!
[quote=”der2906″ post=24753]Like some of the replys before say there is so many variables when painting a car ,there is no one set way ever.No two painters ever spray the same, all have suttle differences in technique. Things like humidity, temperature of panels, paint viscosity, paint type, enviroment your working in , your spraying technique plus hundreds more all matter aswell.People give advice based on there own exprience theyve had over countless years of doing the job, take all the advice, get your gun and start spraying (its the only way) experiment and remember the advice given then do what works for you. practice practice practice is the only way you become efficient in anything in life.Enjoy![/quote]
Not only that, but the product too.
Just because 1 guy can get 1 particular clear to lay beautifully with a particular gun, doesn’t mean it will work the same for everyone and every product. Some clears spray best with a 1.4, others a 1.3 or 1.2. And a 1.2 in a SATA 3000RP may not mean a 1.2 would be best in a 3000HVLP, or an Iwata…or Devilbiss etc.
Thats like asking what is the best car and route to commute with to and from work…too many variables to have 1 perfect answer for all possible scenarios. The best answer you can get is that some are definitely better than others, but to pick what is best for you in your particular situation.
If you don’t like that answer, then too bad, its just the way it is. :lol1
If there were 1 perfect answer, we would all be working in identical shops, spraying the same brand of paint on only 1 model of car…
[quote=”pierceg” post=24751] If there’s one correct way to spray and one best gun to use, how come the community has not figured this out? I don’t understand why there should ever be any kind of confusion.
[/quote]As said, there are so many variables that there could never be one tool and one technique that fits every operator or situation, that’s why there’s no definitive answer.
To try another analogy – put me behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car and I bet I’d be nowhere near as fast as the best. The equipment is no different, and it’s just a case of turning the steering and pressing the pedals, but I’ll never be Ayrton Senna!!!
My advice would be to take whatever gun you have, then practice practice practice, adjust adjust adjust, then practice some more until you get the results you want. As a conservative estimate I’d say that over the last 4 years I’ve painted around 10,000 jobs, more than 20,000 panels, and I still don’t get it right every time!
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Jesus. This is why I made multiple posts all over the internet and talked with suppliers to come to what I thought would be the best gun for shooting flat and they told me 1.3 hybrid… I just don’t understand why not everyone is on the same page. If there’s one correct way to spray and one best gun to use, how come the community has not figured this out? I don’t understand why there should ever be any kind of confusion.
NO 2 PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING… WTF!!!!!!![/quote]This is the problem with kids entering this trade today. they think they can go to tech school and come out and get a job at a shop right along side of a seasoned tech and get the same pay. they feel they are too good to start at the bottom like everyone else did. They think that even though they dont have any experience, they can ask around and buy a $500 spray gun and it will make them look like a pro. Thats the problem today. They are too damn lazy to practice practice practice, learn learn learn, and put the kind of time in that it actually takes to become good at this trade.
Instead of crying about what the gun didnt do for you, Take the damn time and learn what you can do with the gun.[quote=”ding” post=24758][quote=”pierceg” post=24751]
Jesus. This is why I made multiple posts all over the internet and talked with suppliers to come to what I thought would be the best gun for shooting flat and they told me 1.3 hybrid… I just don’t understand why not everyone is on the same page. If there’s one correct way to spray and one best gun to use, how come the community has not figured this out? I don’t understand why there should ever be any kind of confusion.
NO 2 PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING… WTF!!!!!!![/quote]This is the problem with kids entering this trade today. they think they can go to tech school and come out and get a job at a shop right along side of a seasoned tech and get the same pay. they feel they are too good to start at the bottom like everyone else did. They think that even though they dont have any experience, they can ask around and buy a $500 spray gun and it will make them look like a pro. Thats the problem today. They are too damn lazy to practice practice practice, learn learn learn, and put the kind of time in that it actually takes to become good at this trade.
Instead of crying about what the gun didnt do for you, Take the damn time and learn what you can do with the gun.[/quote]:clappy :clappy :clappy
:cheers ^^^^^ What you said ^^^^^ :clappy :clappy :clappy
[quote=”ding” post=24758][quote=”pierceg” post=24751]
Jesus. This is why I made multiple posts all over the internet and talked with suppliers to come to what I thought would be the best gun for shooting flat and they told me 1.3 hybrid… I just don’t understand why not everyone is on the same page. If there’s one correct way to spray and one best gun to use, how come the community has not figured this out? I don’t understand why there should ever be any kind of confusion.
NO 2 PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING… WTF!!!!!!![/quote]This is the problem with kids entering this trade today. they think they can go to tech school and come out and get a job at a shop right along side of a seasoned tech and get the same pay. they feel they are too good to start at the bottom like everyone else did. They think that even though they dont have any experience, they can ask around and buy a $500 spray gun and it will make them look like a pro. Thats the problem today. They are too damn lazy to practice practice practice, learn learn learn, and put the kind of time in that it actually takes to become good at this trade.
Instead of crying about what the gun didnt do for you, Take the damn time and learn what you can do with the gun.[/quote]I suppose you can say I’ve had a short life but I’ve been lucky to have learned that having an edge is crucial for success to take place. So I will continue to do what ever it takes to make me a better painter when I don’t have the luxury of practicing.
Someone wants me to paint their bumper so I shall be changing somethings including the brand of clear and booth that it’s shot in and I’ll take a picture to show you guys where I’m at.
I suppose you can say I’ve had a short life but I’ve been lucky to have learned that having an edge is crucial for success to take place. So I will continue to do what ever it takes to make me a better painter when I don’t have the luxury of practicing.
Someone wants me to paint their bumper so I shall be changing somethings including the brand of clear and booth that it’s shot in and I’ll take a picture to show you guys where I’m at.[/quote]
Your statemnent makes absolutely no sense,how are you going to get better by not practicing?The only way to get an edge is to practice to get better,right now you don’t have one :p Seriously most of the people here are guys with decades of experience working in a shop and painting everyday(myself included) and they have given you good advice…you need to listen.It takes time to get “used to “a clear,spraygun,booth etc changing something everytime you spray is only going to make it more difficult for you.For the record painting a bumper or small parts is not going to turn you into a painter.The only way to learn proper technique is to gradually move up to bigger jobs and eventually completes,that is where the skill comes from,not going out and buying a $500 gun and spending an afternoon reading how to on the net :deadhorse
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This is the problem with kids entering this trade today. they think they can go to tech school and come out and get a job at a shop right along side of a seasoned tech and get the same pay. they feel they are too good to start at the bottom like everyone else did. They think that even though they dont have any experience, they can ask around and buy a $500 spray gun and it will make them look like a pro. Thats the problem today. They are too damn lazy to practice practice practice, learn learn learn, and put the kind of time in that it actually takes to become good at this trade.
Instead of crying about what the gun didnt do for you, Take the damn time and learn what you can do with the gun.[/quote]Damn Ding why don’t ya tell him how it really is. :clappy :teach
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