Hvlp vs non hvlp for base coat.
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I have read a few old threads on here the last few days and read a few say that hvlp is better for laying basecoat down even more so silvers and trouble metalics.is this true and if i switched to hvlp is there a way to set nozzle pressure as i think this is critical to setting it up right ( am i correct here? )we dont have one of those nozzle pressure gauge so would it be difficult without one,its for sovent basecoat,thanks.
IMO the only hvlp gun that I like is a sata nr2000 it sprays very well and actually sprays very fine metallics better than my tekna.I think it really comes down to what people want and get used to.Whatever gun you go with just use the manufacturers suggested pressure setting and forget it,no need for the test cap.I don’t find any material savings vs a compliant gun they use about the same amount of material.
I like hvlp’s better for basecoat most times. There are some exceptions. The lower air cap pressure helps when blending as it will not throw paint as far down a blend panel, making it a bit easier to control. The lower pressure at the tip also helps with placing the metallics where needed without blowing them everywhere. With that said all guns have knobs and a compliant gun can be adjusted to compensate for this if needed, it just might take a bit more time to fine tune.
As you know from my other topic I’ve been out of the game for a few months but not long before that I switched to an NR2000 HVLP for base (DeBeer 900+) and was really impressed with the results.
Ok guys i may try and get a used nr2000 if i can get one at a good price and give it a whirl.
[quote=”ryan999″ post=32528]I like hvlp’s better for basecoat most times. There are some exceptions. The lower air cap pressure helps when blending as it will not throw paint as far down a blend panel, making it a bit easier to control. The lower pressure at the tip also helps with placing the metallics where needed without blowing them everywhere. With that said all guns have knobs and a compliant gun can be adjusted to compensate for this if needed, it just might take a bit more time to fine tune.[/quote]
Hey Ryan out of curiosity which hvlp gun do you use for base coat yourself?
my motto is any gun can spray basecoat. until you get to certain metalics, personly i have never had a problem unless i get too close to the panel.
id rather a hvlp for basecoat cause it doesnt need the level of atomzation of clears so you can run a lower pressure. IF you needed to base a panel or car real quick i guess your could break out a sata or plus.[quote=”reckless” post=32542]my motto is any gun can spray basecoat.[/quote]
How about shooting base with a 2.0 prime gun then? :rofl Its not so much about speed when using a compliant gun its more about atomization,some bases are thicker than others and a compliant gun will do a better job with some metallics,pearls are heavier and they usually know where to go.I tried a plus for a year and it just didn’t hold up to 3-6 jobs a day, as have a few other guys here and the consensus is its pretty much a turd.I will take a sata rp or a tekna anyday over the plus 😉
I use a Sata rp for base and i am quite happy with it but i will be trying a Supernova HVLP in a couple of weeks and that gun seems to be the shit on difficult metalics , i`ve been told that even i can´t go wrong with that one :exci
[quote=”Rob1962″ post=32544]I use a Sata rp for base and i am quite happy with it but i will be trying a Supernova HVLP in a couple of weeks and that gun seems to be the shit on difficult metalics , i`ve been told that even i can´t go wrong with that one :exci[/quote]
I like the rp for solvent base too :cheers
I have found a sata Nr2000 1.3 hvlp on ebay £145 but no cup with it,my 3000 rp digital cup lid is cracked quite bad too,it doesnt leak as it has the seal like a circle in middle of lid but could do with one,can you get a cheap metal cup at all for the 3000 and does it fit the nr2000 ?
Ps im in the uk.4000 hvlp with 1.4 tip
Blends are flawless even on the hardest metallics
I use diamont[quote=”Xchaser” post=32533][quote=”ryan999″ post=32528]I like hvlp’s better for basecoat most times. There are some exceptions. The lower air cap pressure helps when blending as it will not throw paint as far down a blend panel, making it a bit easier to control. The lower pressure at the tip also helps with placing the metallics where needed without blowing them everywhere. With that said all guns have knobs and a compliant gun can be adjusted to compensate for this if needed, it just might take a bit more time to fine tune.[/quote]
Hey Ryan out of curiosity which hvlp gun do you use for base coat yourself?[/quote]
A Sata hvlp. Tip size depends on the model and what type of paint being sprayed.
[quote=”Jayson M” post=32545][quote=”Rob1962″ post=32544]I use a Sata rp for base and i am quite happy with it but i will be trying a Supernova HVLP in a couple of weeks and that gun seems to be the shit on difficult metalics , i`ve been told that even i can´t go wrong with that one :exci[/quote]
I like the rp for solvent base too :cheers[/quote]
Yes , it works perfect on solvents based too , at the moment i only have rp´s for paint , but we are trying to set up this green shop and use waterbase as much as possible so on average you won´t find any solvent based basecoat here , i do have a tin solvent based black for tinting lights tho for wich i normaly use a iwata w100 😉
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