Keeping paint at a certain temp ?

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  • January 25, 2012 at 1:52 am #35460

    How crutial is it to keep paint at a good temp?

    ie primers /base /clears?

    January 25, 2012 at 2:32 am #35462

    fairly

    January 25, 2012 at 7:08 am #35473

    Keeping temp for storage or while using?

    Solvents and solvent paint/primer seems pretty resistant to low temperatures and likely freezing. Waterborne paint and hardeners I would make sure to keep as close to room temp. as possible.

    January 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm #35485

    Yes sorry more water based products but also clears

    my clear was coming out thick …when i spoke to my rep he said prob to cold and i think he is right

    i will try it at room temp and see if it sprays better

    tommy

    January 25, 2012 at 7:36 pm #35496

    [quote=”turbo t” post=24832]Yes sorry more water based products but also clears

    my clear was coming out thick …when i spoke to my rep he said prob to cold and i think he is right

    i will try it at room temp and see if it sprays better

    tommy[/quote]

    Depending if you are using a high solid or medium solid clear the temp can make a big difference on how it lays. def warm it up before applying.

    January 27, 2012 at 4:38 pm #35540

    [quote=”Ben” post=24820]Keeping temp for storage or while using?

    Solvents and solvent paint/primer seems pretty resistant to low temperatures and likely freezing. Waterborne paint and hardeners I would make sure to keep as close to room temp. as possible.[/quote]
    It is recommended to keep the temperature ( >5°C-41°F-<77°F). But… as long as you stay within this range, it's far more important to keep the temperature constant than to have it closer to room temperature and let it cool off every night. We found temperature fluctuations reduce shelf life and increase the buildup of dried paint inside the packaging.

    January 27, 2012 at 11:29 pm #35548

    The water base absolutely must be kept from freezing, and as said, at as stable a temp as you can.

    With that very high solid clear you have you’ll definitely benefit from keeping it at a decent temperature. Coming in on a cold winter morning and spraying the clear when it actually feels cold to the touch will really make it hard work. I keep mine on the heated shelves of my mixing scheme now (~ 20°C) and you can really tell the difference.

    I’m trying to work a solution out for the unit where I do my private work. It’s completely unheated and last winter I was spraying at very close to freezing point. I had to sit my base and clear in some luke warm water before I could get it to spray!! I’ve thought about a cheap cupboard lined with insulation, then one of those temperature controlled warming mats you get for reptile tanks in the bottom.

    January 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm #35567

    Same thing i was thinking andy i have a metal stand was giong to put kingspan on the outside ..no doors for fumes etc and stick a tube heater on the bottom shelf so the heat rises up through thought this would work good?

    might even find me on a shelf some mornings !!

    The rep also has a sata 3000 foose gun with a 1.2 so think i may buy that too !

    spraying some la7w and la5w today i will let you know how it goes

    January 28, 2012 at 7:12 pm #35570

    [quote=”turbo t” post=24906]spraying some la7w and la5w today i will let you know how it goes[/quote]

    Have fun with the Reflex 😆 To be fair I’ve always found it to be a really good match. It’s one of the few silvers I’ll risk edge to edge. But boy is it transparent!

    It’s around 50% 913C (one of their worst covering silvers), 30% 913B (another poor one) 10% flop control agent, with the rest being made up of bits and bobs of black, white and blue. (Can you tell I mix a lot of it?! :blink: )

    A light grey primer or undercoat will really help, but if not just allow yourself an extra coat or two and you’ll be fine. Can’t wait to get the new high-strength silvers and see how much difference they make, especially to two of the colours I spray the most – Reflex Silver and Star Silver (157), which has even more 913C in it.

    And your idea for keeping the paint warm sounds good. A really small heater would do it as they don’t need to be particularly warm, just not cold 🙂

    January 28, 2012 at 10:31 pm #35578

    [quote=”Andy T” post=24909][quote=”turbo t” post=24906]spraying some la7w and la5w today i will let you know how it goes[/quote]

    Have fun with the Reflex 😆 To be fair I’ve always found it to be a really good match. It’s one of the few silvers I’ll risk edge to edge. But boy is it transparent!

    It’s around 50% 913C (one of their worst covering silvers), 30% 913B (another poor one) 10% flop control agent, with the rest being made up of bits and bobs of black, white and blue. (Can you tell I mix a lot of it?! :blink: )

    A light grey primer or undercoat will really help, but if not just allow yourself an extra coat or two and you’ll be fine. Can’t wait to get the new high-strength silvers and see how much difference they make, especially to two of the colours I spray the most – Reflex Silver and Star Silver (157), which has even more 913C in it.

    And your idea for keeping the paint warm sounds good. A really small heater would do it as they don’t need to be particularly warm, just not cold :)[/quote]

    cool mate going to be tomorrow now so many people in and out today hardly god a thing done lol

    yeh its all in 8-145 light grey primer

    how much paint would you advise on

    golf mk4 ani bodykit

    front lower valance
    rear lower valance
    2 side skirts and a roof spoiler ?

    i bought a ltr but have some ezr still there so was thinking of dusting a coat of that first to help cover?

    thanks

    tommy

    January 28, 2012 at 11:30 pm #35580

    I’d have thought a litre would be fine for that, but since you have the EZR spare then it won’t hurt to do your first light coat in that, then wet up with the Reflex. It’s the kind of thing I do a lot of at work.

    EZR has a fair bit of 913VF in it if I remember right. Being a very fine silver that tinter covers extremely well, and as a result is found in quite a few of the popular DeBeer undercoats (904 for white, 314 for bright reds etc.)

    If you ever want it, I’ve formulated my own undercoat for the poor covering silvers that can be added into the custom colours database. Although I think the latest software update allows you to mix their HSS grey shades in water base, instead of just primer.

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