Labor rates ?????
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I just have had the pleasure of going around and getting estimates too fix my Van yesterday
Any way shops are charging 40 to 48 an hour around here and I have been wondering why I haven’t had much if any business now I know :blink: :S :huh: :blink: :unsure: :wak :S what a bunch of :cens FOOL’S :rofl
There is absolutely NO :cens way I am working that cheap! :cens :silly: :unsure: :wak :wak
Heck the cheapest Bike shop I know of charges 70 an hour and mechanical work on cars around here is 100 there abouts :cens
I am glad I find out now this is BS I have been a mechanic my whole F’n life I can and do any thing mechanical this repaint stuff is hard F’n work and if that all I can expect I will be doing it for myself and only my self for ever F doing it for others! There’s now way I am working this hard for others for soooo little!
$70/HOUR + material at 20 shop and 40 refinish :pcorn: push it or suck the tit … your/our choice B)
[b]Doright wrote:[/b]
[quote]I just have had the pleasure of going around and getting estimates too fix my Van yesterdayAny way shops are charging 40 to 48 an hour around here and I have been wondering why I haven’t had much if any business now I know :blink: :S :huh: :blink: :unsure: :wak :S what a bunch of :cens FOOL’S :rofl
There is absolutely NO :cens way I am working that cheap! :cens :silly: :unsure: :wak :wak
Heck the cheapest Bike shop I know of charges 70 an hour and mechanical work on cars around here is 100 there abouts :cens
I am glad I find out now this is BS I have been a mechanic my whole F’n life I can and do any thing mechanical this repaint stuff is hard F’n work and if that all I can expect I will be doing it for myself and only my self for ever F doing it for others! There’s now way I am working this hard for others for soooo little![/quote]
so what was the entire bill btw my labors at 48 😉 but its all smoke an mirrors if ya have done this enuff :whistle:[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]Doright wrote:[/b]
[quote]I just have had the pleasure of going around and getting estimates too fix my Van yesterdayAny way shops are charging 40 to 48 an hour around here and I have been wondering why I haven’t had much if any business now I know :blink: :S :huh: :blink: :unsure: :wak :S what a bunch of :cens FOOL’S :rofl
There is absolutely NO :cens way I am working that cheap! :cens :silly: :unsure: :wak :wak
Heck the cheapest Bike shop I know of charges 70 an hour and mechanical work on cars around here is 100 there abouts :cens
I am glad I find out now this is BS I have been a mechanic my whole F’n life I can and do any thing mechanical this repaint stuff is hard F’n work and if that all I can expect I will be doing it for myself and only my self for ever F doing it for others! There’s now way I am working this hard for others for soooo little![/quote]
so what was the entire bill btw my labors at 48 😉 but its all smoke an mirrors if ya have done this enuff :whistle:[/quote]
thats how we scare the mechanics that wanna be painters away from the gravy train :rofl btw ive done mech work 2 an never made the money i can make in this buiss 😉We are at 45.00 hr body. 45.00 hr paint. 30.00 materials. Our service dept. I think is at 80.00. I wouldnt trade paint and body for service ever!
I dont see how Bondo makes any money with the price of plastic being so high! 😛
There’s a lot more “labor” in body/paint work. Much less paper work too.
Yup, it is smoke and mirrors.[b]Underpaid Painter wrote:[/b]
[quote]We are at 45.00 hr body. 45.00 hr paint. 30.00 materials. Our service dept. I think is at 80.00. I wouldnt trade paint and body for service ever!I dont see how Bondo makes any money with the price of plastic being so high! :P[/quote]
he saves on the aftermarket beer :rofl :rofl :roflgood thing i use the light weight filler :rofl
[IMG]http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s151/jackcarlson1965/002-7.jpg[/IMG][b]Stone wrote:[/b]
[quote]$70/HOUR + material at 20 shop and 40 refinish :pcorn: push it or suck the tit … your/our choice B)[/quote]Stone can you explain the 20/40 ??? :S :blink: :huh: your seams the most honest here :pcorn:
Smoke and mirrors Boy you guys make it sound like Majic :lol1
well most guys in the states dont get that in fact dam few shops in wa state get 50$ body 30$ paint an materials so dont suprize me that there getting 42 ta 48 in ur area 😉 ive always made good money doing that so do most shops down here an do better than most mech shops ta be honest :cheers
It makes absolutely NO sense To ME to give Insurance companies a Break on Labor like that! :S
They dont give me one :censWhy should body work be payable at one rate and Paint be at another??? just because its easier work? No talent? My ars! Like you say smoke and mirrors!
Seams too me the Industry Needs a leader and tell the insurance companies to pound sand! Labor is labor and My shop rate is what it is!My Labor rate is the same whether Im sitting on my ars or reading a maint manual or bending wrenches or figuring out Complex Electronics Avionics problems.
You know Every single shop I have ever worked at has always tried to track labor Mechanics just wont do it! Why some Painters agreed to this load of Garbage I cant believe it, Your Shop payments shop rent Light bills Licences and taxes are all due and payable at one rate Why should your Painting be Paid at another???
This is an insurance industry deal that’s become standardized nation wide who the heck are they too decide how much your shop is going to make? They are controlling your Profits! That’s UN-AMERICAN!
Do yourselves a favor BAN together with other local shops dont give the Insurance companies any were else to go and demand One labor rate for ALL labor!
If there was ever an industry in need of some sort of organization for the shop owners Geeez.[b]Doright wrote:[/b]
[quote]It makes absolutely NO sense To ME to give Insurance companies a Break on Labor like that! :S
They dont give me one :censWhy should body work be payable at one rate and Paint be at another??? just because its easier work? No talent? My ars! Like you say smoke and mirrors!
Seams too me the Industry Needs a leader and tell the insurance companies to pound sand! Labor is labor and My shop rate is what it is!My Labor rate is the same whether Im sitting on my ars or reading a maint manual or bending wrenches or figuring out Complex Electronics Avionics problems.
You know Every single shop I have ever worked at has always tried to track labor Mechanics just wont do it! Why some Painters agreed to this load of Garbage I cant believe it, Your Shop payments shop rent Light bills Licences and taxes are all due and payable at one rate Why should your Painting be Paid at another???
This is an insurance industry deal that’s become standardized nation wide who the heck are they too decide how much your shop is going to make? They are controlling your Profits! That’s UN-AMERICAN!
Do yourselves a favor BAN together with other local shops dont give the Insurance companies any were else to go and demand One labor rate for ALL labor!
If there was ever an industry in need of some sort of organization for the shop owners Geeez.[/quote]YUP :pcorn:
It’s not as simple as “giving the insurance compainies a break”they dictate what they will pay for labor to the shops.The whole problem started with the DRP program with insurance companies and the shops.The other problem is if everyone got on the same page there is always some dork hack shop down the street who will undercut all the shops who “banned together” so they can get all the work.Unfortunately this has been a problem for many years,lots of shops have gotten rid of the drp program and the price is what it is.
[b]Jayson M wrote:[/b]
[quote]It’s not as simple as “giving the insurance compainies a break”they dictate what they will pay for labor to the shops.The whole problem started with the DRP program with insurance companies and the shops.The other problem is if everyone got on the same page there is always some dork hack shop down the street who will undercut all the shops who “banned together” so they can get all the work.Unfortunately this has been a problem for many years,lots of shops have gotten rid of the drp program and the price is what it is.[/quote]
did some one call my name :rofl :rofl :roflThe $30 hr paint and materials is not the labor rate for the paint. its the allowance for paint and materials based on refinish hours on the estimate
so lets say a basic estimate
replace fender 2.5hr
refinish fender 1.9hr
clear fender .8hr
————————–body labor 2.5hr at $50 hr : $125
refinish labor 2.7hr at $50hr : $135
paint+materials 2.7hr at 30hr : $ 81
—————————————-total labor : $260
paint materials: : $ 81
—————————————–
cost of repair: : $341just remember doright if you are getting $50hr to change a fender that the book pays 2.5 hours for and you do it in 1.5 hours you still get paid for that 2.5hours worth of work. book time is a lot easier to make in the body shop than the mechanical shop.
the estimate on the trailblazer i just fixed had 23.7 hours on it. I did the job in under 10hours
even though the estimate paid $50 hour I made over $118hr
really its simple. your making it complicated
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