Lesonal Pro-Air
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Thanks Ryan, I have been having better luck with it. I started leaving the reducer out of it. When i first started my new job the other painter said they always reduce it with fast HP reducer and they even put accelerator in it. I found out real quick that it wont work for me that way. I somtimes mix it 50-50 slow and fast. I would like to spray it with the tekna or the w400lv. I have used my cvi to spray it but get better results with my lph400.
lesonal HS 420 clear on this vehicle
http://s421.photobucket.com/albums/pp299/dunsdale/l200%20repairs/?albumview=slideshow
Looks good Nick! I have heard of a lot of guys in the UK that all say that same Lesonal clear is very nice. I think for the price Lesonal is the best deal here in the states. It’s every bit as good as PPG or Dupont if not better. And it’s cheaper. A very under rated product over here, it amazes me more people do not use it.
[quote=”Underpaid Painter” post=17692]Thanks Ryan, I have been having better luck with it. I started leaving the reducer out of it. When i first started my new job the other painter said they always reduce it with fast HP reducer and they even put accelerator in it. I found out real quick that it wont work for me that way. I somtimes mix it 50-50 slow and fast. I would like to spray it with the tekna or the w400lv. I have used my cvi to spray it but get better results with my lph400.[/quote]
I never reduce it. Its thin as it is. I think it sprays fine out of the LPH. Only issue is the speed. If doing a bigger job, its hard to get around it before the clear flashes.
I’ve heard good things about Lesonal too, but I’ve never had the pleasure.
Looks very nice in those pictures, possibly even too slick for the finishes I’m trying to match, but I’m sure I could introduce a little peel somehow 😆
now according to my neighbor who is the sikkens rep around here, many of the lesonal clear are just relabeled sikkens. he said the cans go down the production line split in half, one side gets a lesonal label one side gets the sikkens. i’m sure this doesn’t apply to every clear but probably some. wouldn’t be the only paint company out there to do something like that. i have used the lesonal universal clear which was really good and my neighbor recently dropped off a couple gallons of the superior 250 for me to try. that is an extremely nice clear as well for those shops that can just spray and send it on its way. i tried buffing it and forget it. i would have better luck buffing the shop floor. with all that said though, the spi clears look just as good and buff like butter at 1/4 the cost.
[quote=”jim c” post=17764]now according to my neighbor who is the sikkens rep around here, many of the lesonal clear are just relabeled sikkens. he said the cans go down the production line split in half, one side gets a lesonal label one side gets the sikkens. i’m sure this doesn’t apply to every clear but probably some. wouldn’t be the only paint company out there to do something like that. i have used the lesonal universal clear which was really good and my neighbor recently dropped off a couple gallons of the superior 250 for me to try. that is an extremely nice clear as well for those shops that can just spray and send it on its way. i tried buffing it and forget it. i would have better luck buffing the shop floor. with all that said though, the spi clears look just as good and buff like butter at 1/4 the cost.[/quote]
Superior 250 is not bad to polish if you start right away and use a polish for scratch resistant clears,3m has one and so does farecla.
Your SPI claim is bogus it is not 1/4 of the cost ,not for me up here anyway.I have tried it and it’s ok but it is not like a high end clear….sorry
I am amazed by your work….down right impressive but spare us the SPI plug[quote=”Jayson M” post=17767][quote=”jim c” post=17764]now according to my neighbor who is the sikkens rep around here, many of the lesonal clear are just relabeled sikkens. he said the cans go down the production line split in half, one side gets a lesonal label one side gets the sikkens. i’m sure this doesn’t apply to every clear but probably some. wouldn’t be the only paint company out there to do something like that. i have used the lesonal universal clear which was really good and my neighbor recently dropped off a couple gallons of the superior 250 for me to try. that is an extremely nice clear as well for those shops that can just spray and send it on its way. i tried buffing it and forget it. i would have better luck buffing the shop floor. with all that said though, the spi clears look just as good and buff like butter at 1/4 the cost.[/quote]
Superior 250 is not bad to polish if you start right away and use a polish for scratch resistant clears,3m has one and so does farecla.
Your SPI claim is bogus it is not 1/4 of the cost ,not for me up here anyway.I have tried it and it’s ok but it is not like a high end clear….sorry
I am amazed by your work….down right impressive but spare us the SPI plug[/quote]Tell us how you really feel Jay :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
[quote=”ding” post=17768][quote=”Jayson M” post=17767][quote=”jim c” post=17764]now according to my neighbor who is the sikkens rep around here, many of the lesonal clear are just relabeled sikkens. he said the cans go down the production line split in half, one side gets a lesonal label one side gets the sikkens. i’m sure this doesn’t apply to every clear but probably some. wouldn’t be the only paint company out there to do something like that. i have used the lesonal universal clear which was really good and my neighbor recently dropped off a couple gallons of the superior 250 for me to try. that is an extremely nice clear as well for those shops that can just spray and send it on its way. i tried buffing it and forget it. i would have better luck buffing the shop floor. with all that said though, the spi clears look just as good and buff like butter at 1/4 the cost.[/quote]
Superior 250 is not bad to polish if you start right away and use a polish for scratch resistant clears,3m has one and so does farecla.
Your SPI claim is bogus it is not 1/4 of the cost ,not for me up here anyway.I have tried it and it’s ok but it is not like a high end clear….sorry
I am amazed by your work….down right impressive but spare us the SPI plug[/quote]Tell us how you really feel Jay :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl[/quote]
Jayson is always quite reserved on his feelings…:whistle:
[quote=”Ben” post=17785][quote=”ding” post=17768][quote=”Jayson M” post=17767][quote=”jim c” post=17764]now according to my neighbor who is the sikkens rep around here, many of the lesonal clear are just relabeled sikkens. he said the cans go down the production line split in half, one side gets a lesonal label one side gets the sikkens. i’m sure this doesn’t apply to every clear but probably some. wouldn’t be the only paint company out there to do something like that. i have used the lesonal universal clear which was really good and my neighbor recently dropped off a couple gallons of the superior 250 for me to try. that is an extremely nice clear as well for those shops that can just spray and send it on its way. i tried buffing it and forget it. i would have better luck buffing the shop floor. with all that said though, the spi clears look just as good and buff like butter at 1/4 the cost.[/quote]
Superior 250 is not bad to polish if you start right away and use a polish for scratch resistant clears,3m has one and so does farecla.
Your SPI claim is bogus it is not 1/4 of the cost ,not for me up here anyway.I have tried it and it’s ok but it is not like a high end clear….sorry
I am amazed by your work….down right impressive but spare us the SPI plug[/quote]Tell us how you really feel Jay :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl[/quote]
Jayson is always quite reserved on his feelings…:whistle:[/quote]
And you talk to much Benny :rofl:rofl
Hit the nail on the head.. SPI isnt in the same ballpark as 250 clear………..
Yeah, it’s up there with that ultra uber expensive $800 dollar scratch resistant, self repairing Clear. :rock
well i must say damn!! dont hold back jay:lol1 i think that was every bit of a akzo plug as it was an spi. not sure what the spi cost is for canada. i would imagine though it would have to be more than here in the us. the superior 250 i am told is about $320 a gallon sprayable while the spi euro clear which sprays and looks almost identical to it is $75 a gallon sprayable. i would definately say thats 1/4 the cost. as for the buffing, what i thought was strange was that the 250 was still soft, i could still fingernail it but it still wouldn’t buff. tried it at 12hrs, 24 hrs, 3 days. i could get it there but i had to work the $hit out of it even when i finished it out with 3000 grit. i was warned about the buffing when the suff was dropped off to me. could be the compound i guess. i was using the 3m performance compound. the lesonal universal clear buffed great. funny, most clears that dont buff, the problem is that they are rock hard. dont get me wrong i thought the 250 was an awesome clear. probably the best looking clear i’ve seen out of the gun. i’m just tellin you i can get the same finish out of a gallon of euro. i have sprayed alot of it though so i can really nail the stuff just right.
hope you didnt put the 250 over solvent Jim :blink:
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