Matte kandy stripes on gloss base
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Looks a little slow in here so i thought id share what this crazy chick wants from me. She has a Honda 929, and wants it gloss black base, with something like a HOK kandy brandywine tri stage MATTE stripe on it. What would be the easiest way to do it? Spray the silver/gold kandy base down first, tape off stripe, spray black base and clear, unmask stripe and mask the black off, spray the kandy and flattened clear? But that will leave a funny line between the 2 that would require pinstripes. Also matte would defete the purpose of the kandy.
Id rather do it gloss black base/clear, followed by a single stage matte stripe, but you know girls! Picky and stubborn!Maybe spray the black base, tape off and spray the silver/gold kandy base, anmask, spray the kandy (shouldnt show on the black part), clear it all, mask off around the stripe and spray a flattened clear over just the stripe part?
Candy it all first and clear, mask of the stripe and spray the black. clear entire tank again. then scuff and shoot the stripe with flat clear
Nice. Never thought of that way. May be the least steps.
Think if I feathered the base/kandy out just a little further than the stripe the clear would hide it? Or would I need to base/kandy it completely? Kandy isnt cheap, so the less I use the better. But I dont want to be able to see the overspray/blend. Maybe blending agent first?
i have long been concidering doing a matte candy job ,i actualy think its a nice effect
Kandy will lose it’s effect when matte because the principles of refraction and relection are are altered, resulting in diminished perception of depth. Snell’s Law. It would look like a wetsanded cleared kandy job prior to flowcoating. Depending on the hue desired and graphics layout, you could use KBCs instead of traditional BC with KK/SG100 over it if matte is the objective and a kandy product is a must have. Candy with a “C” for the non HOK products.
I saw an old Lincoln painted solid kandy matte and it was kinda neat. But for all the effort involved I think there are better options. That’s a lot of money to dump into a matte job. With her matte stripe idea, a flat single stage in something similar would be much easier, much cheaper, and probably turn out much better in the end.
Maybe do a spray out first to see if reality matches her vision.
SS will not produce the same effect as kandy, even if it is matte. There is still depth in matte kandy, just not nearly as much as gloss. Matte SS will look like flashed BC….dead. It’s not difficult to do what she wants, just do it like Ding suggests. If you blow KBC over the black base and it’s the hue you want, it’s easier yet. T&M is irrelevant if a customer wants a certain look. Pay it, change job specs, or go somewhere else.
Def do a spray out to show her half gloss kandy half flat kandy. She could see what she losses with flat over kandy. Maybe gloss black and gloss kandy with just a small srtipe of flat on top of kandy. She can still enjoy true effect of kandy with a little flat. I think if she doesnt understand kandy, spray out will help to persuade her for afew changes in her idea.
I got an idea. Spray gloss black and gloss candy. Lay a 1/4in fine line inside kandy. Tape off black. Flat clear kandy area then pull out 1/4tape for a nice gloss stripe revealing true kandy while satisfying the flat kandy thing.
Yeah I dont stock HOK, so in order to even do a sprayout, I/she would have to get the base color and the kandy and all reducers and hardeners. By then your in so deep you would almost have to do it. Although, I may have some of the reducer and maybe activator left from the last kandy job. It was a kandy green/ reduced black artwork over pearl white. Pearl white is really a pretty color I must say!
I know SS wouldnt even come close to being what shes after. But it may be something that would work. It would sure be a lot cheaper to do. But if this is what she is after, I will certainly do it.
I didnt like the artwork on the last kandy job I did, but the client gets what the client wants. This guy was half black and about 320 pounds, maybe 6’8″ with tattoos all over his neck and face (keep in mind in 5’8″ and 155 at best). Funny because we keep in touch and hes a super super nice guy. Sure wouldnt want to run into him in a dark ally though! Yikes!! What im getting at is a few weeks later he called and wanted me to do a helmet for him. Dude was sinister with that thing on. Couple weeks later he called wanting another one done. Something more simple with some names of friends that had passed and some smoky flames kind of thing.
Spray flat as thin as possible and pull tape before dry so hard edge can flow out just alittle.
[quote=”strawberry” post=29712]I got an idea. Spray gloss black and gloss candy. Lay a 1/4in fine line inside kandy. Tape off black. Flat clear kandy area then pull out 1/4tape for a nice gloss stripe revealing true kandy while satisfying the flat kandy thing.[/quote]
Thats not a bad idea!
Have you ever used kk kandy concentrate? It’s good for spray outs $27 for small can just mix with your clear. For the silver if you have your own mix set up just take the brightest left over silver you have and add some coarse aluminum. Match close to bc02 orion silver. Sparkly. If the job is worth it. Ask for a spray out (sample) fee. $50-$100. I do that to draw before airbrush. People have all these ideas the serious will pay and if you don’t do the job it didn’t cost you. Times are tough samples cost us and we can’t work for free. Sometimes I will tell customer if I do the job I will deduct the fee of the final bill.
[quote=”gtome” post=29713]I/she would have to get the base color and the kandy and all reducers and hardeners.][/quote]
That’s for UK, not KK as I said earlier. You can put KK their SG100, in DBC 500 or any intercoat clear. That’s one of it’s purposes. Use any base you have in stock. PPG Vibrance is a similar system; they just don’t have variety of products HOK has. All this info is online. I would not lift a finger until you give her a price.
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