More of what I’ve been up to…
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With having no painter, the other bodyman and I have been painting our own jobs. So far its been working out well for us…
Cavalier bumper:
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Front end on a Cobalt
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[img]http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180025_10150162572320033_723495032_8514876_3274553_n.jpg[/img]Bondo’s not the only one doing Subarus…did the back end on an Imprezza as well…Now Bondo, notice how the bumper is painted off and the door trim is removed… :chair
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[img]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180685_10150162572580033_723495032_8514880_5114400_n.jpg[/img]Crap job, front end on a Passat…major PITA…major issues with parts…
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[img]http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183689_10150162572715033_723495032_8514883_4638096_n.jpg[/img]My Current job, a Kia Sportage. Good hit, the floor is buckled, so I’m replacing some parts and pulling/repairing others…
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[img]http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184709_10150162572750033_723495032_8514884_4602243_n.jpg[/img]You got my respect, that’s some great work!
Nice pics! I could never paint a hood on a car without getting it dirty as fuk. I always hang mine
nice ben. like the red.
looking good Ben. How’s that autowave treating you. Change them filters yet
Nice work Ben. Looks like that autowave is working out for you and looks like it a pretty nice system.
Very nice Ben.
Looking at the work you’re turning out, I don’t really think your shop needs to find a painter 😉
I agree Andy, maybe that shop can just pay Ben double time for every hour and call it a day?
[quote=”ding” post=18729]looking good Ben. How’s that autowave treating you. Change them filters yet[/quote]
The autowave is working well. Only issue is a little mottling on the odd job (horizontal hoods)…need to work on that and I think I will take Jaysons advice and get a bigger fluid tip for the gun. Otherwise the system is great, all the products are straight forward and user friendly. :cheers
The filters aren’t changed yet, but we have them at the shop…just put in new bulbs. Need to pressure wash it and re-spray the booth coating.
[quote]Looking at the work you’re turning out, I don’t really think your shop needs to find a painter[/quote]
Thanks. The hours are working out well and we aren’t busy to the point of needing another person, so I am happy as it is. 😉
[quote=”Ben” post=18742][quote=”ding” post=18729]looking good Ben. How’s that autowave treating you. Change them filters yet[/quote]
The autowave is working well. Only issue is a little mottling on the odd job (horizontal hoods)…need to work on that and I think I will take Jaysons advice and get a bigger fluid tip for the gun. Otherwise the system is great, all the products are straight forward and user friendly. :cheers
The filters aren’t changed yet, but we have them at the shop…just put in new bulbs. Need to pressure wash it and re-spray the booth coating.
[quote]Looking at the work you’re turning out, I don’t really think your shop needs to find a painter[/quote]
Thanks. The hours are working out well and we aren’t busy to the point of needing another person, so I am happy as it is. ;)[/quote]
What ratio are you reducing?
We used to have a little problem with mottling when they told us to never reduce over 20%,now I go 30-40% on metallics,especially with little or no humidity this time of year.Application course teaches 30% for difficult metallics and pearls,or up to 50% in the summer.It would be extremely difficult to spray autowave with a 1.3.With the gun he is using it reccomends a 1.4 or 1.5,sata 3000hvlp with a 1.4HC works the best.When it comes to colors containing 888C 888DC 888EC it would be difficult if not impossible to not get a little mottling with a 1.3.Also dropping your pressure 5 psi or so for your control coat with full trigger pull and minimum 12-14 inches from surface and slow passes(but not to slow) will help.For your control coat you need big droplets and you want it to look like the surface is being peppered or rain hitting a sandy beach if that makes sense.Your first coat needs to be wet enough for the metallics to be swimming,second coat is medium wet,then your drop coat.Believe it or not your first coat is just as important for laying out the metallics as your drop coat.For what he has to work with and no help I think Benny is doing a good job,he just has to get in his groove.
Also Ben when you take out your intake filters and exhaust filters turn on the booth,close the doors and Blow the snot out of the intake ducting,and make sure the pit is not full of dirt/overspray dust.Also check you exhaust stack and fan,it might need a good scrape and clean.After this is done it will make a huge improvement in air movement and flash time.If that is an old devilbiss concept I’m sure there are intake filters on the airmake up unit,don’t forget those too.[quote=”Jayson M” post=18752]Application course teaches 30% for difficult metallics and pearls,or up to 50% in the summer.It would be extremely difficult to spray autowave with a 1.3.With the gun he is using it reccomends a 1.4 or 1.5,sata 3000hvlp with a 1.4HC works the best.When it comes to colors containing 888C 888DC 888EC it would be difficult if not impossible to not get a little mottling with a 1.3.Also dropping your pressure 5 psi or so for your control coat with full trigger pull and minimum 12-14 inches from surface and slow passes(but not to slow) will help.For your control coat you need big droplets and you want it to look like the surface is being peppered or rain hitting a sandy beach if that makes sense.Your first coat needs to be wet enough for the metallics to be swimming,second coat is medium wet,then your drop coat.Believe it or not your first coat is just as important for laying out the metallics as your drop coat.For what he has to work with and no help I think Benny is doing a good job,he just has to get in his groove.
Also Ben when you take out your intake filters and exhaust filters turn on the booth,close the doors and Blow the snot out of the intake ducting,and make sure the pit is not full of dirt/overspray dust.Also check you exhaust stack and fan,it might need a good scrape and clean.After this is done it will make a huge improvement in air movement and flash time.If that is an old devilbiss concept I’m sure there are intake filters on the airmake up unit,don’t forget those too.[/quote]
I believe they told us 50% reduction for pearls in the advanced autowave class I took a couple months back(may be wrong have to look at my book),some very good info you posted there.
We were the first shop to convert to waterbourne out here,and in the beginning they told us never reduce over 20% or it’d “explode”(still don’t know what that was supposed to mean,and now know it’s pure BS).
Been spraying with a 1.4 sata 3000 hvlp from day one,only gun I can get good results with so far.Where did you take your course candyman?I took mine at the Vancouver training center.I could see 50% for a tri-stage,but for a regular low hiding color like a red pearl that would be a diaster.Interesting info,let us know what your book says,it has been over 2 years since I took that course.The 1.4 HC stands for hot climate,it doesn’t break it up as much and I think it is slightly larger than a 1.4.
dont worry about the mottling issue ben. After all you are painting GMs now :whistle:
[quote=”Jayson M” post=18752]Application course teaches 30% for difficult metallics and pearls,or up to 50% in the summer.It would be extremely difficult to spray autowave with a 1.3.With the gun he is using it reccomends a 1.4 or 1.5,sata 3000hvlp with a 1.4HC works the best.When it comes to colors containing 888C 888DC 888EC it would be difficult if not impossible to not get a little mottling with a 1.3.Also dropping your pressure 5 psi or so for your control coat with full trigger pull and minimum 12-14 inches from surface and slow passes(but not to slow) will help.For your control coat you need big droplets and you want it to look like the surface is being peppered or rain hitting a sandy beach if that makes sense.Your first coat needs to be wet enough for the metallics to be swimming,second coat is medium wet,then your drop coat.Believe it or not your first coat is just as important for laying out the metallics as your drop coat.For what he has to work with and no help I think Benny is doing a good job,he just has to get in his groove.
Also Ben when you take out your intake filters and exhaust filters turn on the booth,close the doors and Blow the snot out of the intake ducting,and make sure the pit is not full of dirt/overspray dust.Also check you exhaust stack and fan,it might need a good scrape and clean.After this is done it will make a huge improvement in air movement and flash time.If that is an old devilbiss concept I’m sure there are intake filters on the airmake up unit,don’t forget those too.[/quote]Thanks Jayson… :teach
I’ve been reducing the metallics 20-30% (20 % to start, then adding another 10% if I feel it needs to be a little wetter). My first coat has been going on wet (letting the metallics float), the second coat that is a little less wet seems to even the metallics out well. The control coat/drop coat I’ve been reducing my pressure and backing off…slow passes, about 75% overlap and letting it go on “sandy”. The mottling isn’t too bad. That gold Toyota came out really well…but I did reduce that one quite a bit. I need to hone in on the right spray pressure. I’ve been spraying at 22-24 PSI, then dropping to 18-19 for the control coat. I am thinking that is a little too low for the control coat. I am definitely seeing how over-atomizing the metallics causes them to lay down inconsistently. Now that there are new booth lights, the jobs shouldn’t look so “shadowy” in the booth. Any of the mottling I’ve had is not noticeable in the natural light (outside) so that’s not too bad at all. The customers and my boss all seem happy…colours are good and no redo’s so far! :rock
As for the booth, we will get the pressure washer and clean the pit out well. The intake fan was recently serviced and was supposed to have been cleaned. Will definitely blow out the intake area (hopefully there aren’t too many surprises in there). The booth is balancing very well and seems to be exchanging air at a good rate, so I have a feeling it is probably not too cruddy. The entire thing was apparently cleaned well about 8-12 months ago.
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