New Job. New System.. Anyone familiar with RM
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Hey guys, well im new to this site, looks like theres a lot of people with talent and are willing to help. So I just got a new job at a new shop and im not familiar with their system at all.. I had been painting Dupont chroma premeire. Anyways thats history now because they use RM whitch ive never heard of at all. Want to know if someone has used it before or is using it. I will get training but i want have an idea of what I will be dealing with. Any tips would be great thanks.
Are you using onyx or diamont?
bin using RM for 40+ years now …. they took away our diamont here in canada and we now are useing limco and onyx , both of which have been working good for us
[quote=”Stone” post=20125]bin using RM for 40+ years now …. they took away our diamont here in canada and we now are useing limco and onyx , both of which have been working good for us[/quote]
but … alphacryl ruled :rock
Went today to the shop just to get a feel of the shop. I will be using diamont. The mixing paint nt wasnt much different from any other other system. What I did notice was that its a 2 to 1 mix, so its a thicker base, a lot different from Dupont. Seems like it covers good but you cant really shoot with 29 psi and give a medium coat. The guy did three coats at a fast pace, basically all the coats were dry coats and it covered very well. My fist day will really be on monday, so if there is any tips that can help with the base will be great. I want to get the base down first then worry about the clear. thaanks
Diamont is a decent system,but one thing to remember with any polyester base coat is that slow reducer is your friend when it comes to blending.The last time I used it was 10 years ago with a GTI with a 1.4 tip.Make sure you put on medium wet coats,dry is not good,if you do it can cause adhession problems.My last coat I would increase distance and slow down a little to even out metallics if necessary.
Thanks.. Yea I had never heard of it untill today, I guess its been around for a while. So i guess medium coats will be a good start for me. I was told that you dont want to rush the flash time between coats becuase it will give you issues. I will give it 3 mins between coats i guess. I am using a a sata jet 2000 with a 1.3 tip, sold my sata 2000 1.4 tip, but planning on get two new guns. I will be giving the sata 4000 1.4 a shot. I know that we where reducing it with UR50, didnt really read much into the reducers but i will take that into notice as we will be painting a silver Gm that will require blending on the rear door and front fender.
overall diamont is a very easy paint to spray and use. covers pretty well. 95% are 2-3 coats. good metallic control, flashes quickly. the reducers are on the hot side. me being a custom painter i dont do a whole lot of matching but the colors i have matched pretty good. i really like their color chip/formula system. i am using the colormax 2 and the amount of chips is pretty extensive. nothing i can really think of to tell you that you need to watch out for that hasn’t already been said. always good to activate the base. its a bit higher in polyester than some others.
yea i we did a ford explorer today, its a white pearl and i sprayed the plastic piece that goes on the tail gate. The color ships wasnt bad at all, they didnt have many options so it made it easy for me. the plastic came primed already so it coverd with three coats.. first coat was easy but i learned quickly that you cant go with heavy coats, medium coats at a quick pase is going to have to be my formation. very different from what i was usto. the good thing so far is that it covers very well, just gotta be patient in between coats and do 3 medium coats..
it’s one of the most worker friendly paint on the market.you’ll love it
Yes you will love diamont and will eventually say that’s all youll ever spray again. Now that’s just my sales side coming out. We’ve sold BASF products for 30 years and feel that we supply the best products on the market. You seem like you know what your found when it comes to spraying so I can assure you that you’ll have success with diamont, wait till you shoot Onyx sometime ! When you say you’ll have to just be patient in between coats, were your flash times faster with dupont ?
Yes its a big difference, the product seems to cover great, and yes I found out that you cant rush it and cant put it on wet.. I could spray dupont with a medium wet coat and let it flash and repeat my step and it wouldnt give me an issue.. the problem they have is that dupont color match isnt great. I was using 1.3 sata so i will change to 1.4. Im sure that i will adapt quicly to the system, just gotta be patient with the coats..
What issue did you run into recoating to quik ? have you used the base with basecoat hardner or no ??
Well i used UR50 reducer, my first coat was a medium coat, i think i didnt let it flash enough but i think i just put my coats on too wet, my motion was to slow for the pressure i was sparaying at 29psi..so i guess my second coat was too wet and it looked like it lifted, looked like blushing. it was my first time and it was a small piece so i corrected it before i went on to my mid coat.. my coats where to wet and heavy..thats was my problem. and no i havent used any basecoat hardner. do you recommend a 1.4 tip gun just because its so thick..
The blushing will happen with any brand or type of paint. That is from using too fast a reducer for the humidity level. Basecoat itself wont lift or wrinkle. Thats ay paint film undrneath being attacked by the solvents in the base.
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