new member with haze problem.
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First of all I’m a new member, and have been searching for a site like this for a while. I’m using standox base/clear and am recently experiencing a consistent haze problem. We’re using 20-30 reducer and hardner, however the outdoor temp has been fluctuating, so we have to adjust accordingly. I’m allowing about
Fifteen minutes flash between sealar and color, then twenty between base and clear. I’m measuring viscosity and regulating airpressure. I guess my question is, ummm what the hell is going on, and has anybody ever experienced this? If so, what was the solution?What do you mean by haze? a picture would help.
What do you mean by haze? need more info and a picture would help.
Is it water base or solvent basecoat?
I’m using solvent, and as for the picture, I can’t get one to turn out. The finished pannels looks cloudy..
you mean the clear is cloudy/dry?
Yep. i’ve had it happen using 15-60 Plus. By chance is that what you’re using? When it was happening to me i was using a 1.4 in my gun, i dropped it to a 1.2 and the problem went away immediately. I found if you over apply that clear it will haze like crazy almost before your eyes. Another option is to do the 1 1/2 coat application method, and it should stop for you. If you’re using 20-30 hardener i’d stick with the 5% reducer and use T25-35 for a little more tail solvent. The hardeners make a difference too. I’m now using the same clear in the Spies line only with the VHS hardener option instead of the standard HS. Much better results. I don’t believe you can get the VHS in the Standox line though.
Thanks for the info! I tried the T25-35, and it helped a lot. Can you tell me more about the VHS clear? I would like to give it a try. Is it similar to the HS?
The VHS are the hardeners used in the clears, and i don’t believe you can get them in Standox, i’m pretty sure they’re Spies only. My personal take on them is that they make the clear handle better; they look better both out of gun and out of bake, seem to come out of bake firmer, and to polish a bit easier than with the standard HS hardeners.
Are you using 15-60Plus? If you contact your rep i believe there is an option for activation and reduction with the newer 2.1 products, but i have no experience using them in that clear. Maybe it would work for you. If not the 2.1 PFC clears might be what you need, i have used their Spies counterparts and found them very friendly to use and to have a good appearance.
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