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  • April 3, 2011 at 10:21 pm #30053

    I know rattle cans are not suggested. From my experiences with the canned stuff the color coat stays on really good. As I said though the clear coat is defiantly not good. From what I have been reading I will probably try a 2K spray can clear coat this time. Unless I can find a gun to borrow cans are all I have to work with. There is a air compressor I can use, just no guns. We have no welder which was the reason for the pop rivets. I thought I got the thing on there really tight. I could of gotten it welded though, it was just too far out of my way at the time :unsure: .

    I won’t pay to take the car in. My car has a ton more minor damage/growing problems then just those two spots. Given its current value, mileage, and how much longer I intend to own it. It’s not worth it for me. Its not something I can easily afford either. I wouldn’t of put all the time into the last repair if having someone else do it was in my budget.

    April 4, 2011 at 8:17 am #30087

    well I guess it depends on where you live or maybe someone around you has a gun , how about going to the local bodyshop and asking about renting the booth and a gun?

    I have seen the 2k spray can clears but I have never used them.

    April 4, 2011 at 5:00 pm #30095

    Why not just go around too local Junk yards and find a new door?
    Probably find one with the right color or close enough.
    More than likly door is shot any way or it wouldnt have needed that much filler any way.

    Loose the Rattle can

    If you have to use a Spray bomb use one of these
    http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraypaintdepot/preval-paint-sprayer.aspx
    At least you can use REAL automotive coating with them
    But too paint a whole door you would be money ahead buying a good cheap Paint gun and a cheap Air Compressor

    April 4, 2011 at 10:05 pm #30106

    :agree Doright is exactly right Thanks Doright +1 karma ! ( I wasn’t thinking ) :chair

    Your best bet in that case is to find a door the color you need at a local junkyard if they dont have it the network they are in may have it and get it shipped for free to the yard closest to you , I have done this many times but somehow it slipped my mind ( That way you can use the old door for practice )

    April 4, 2011 at 10:32 pm #30107

    I do not feel my door is shot. It works fine. Until I take the filler off I won’t know how much of the door it covers. When i took it apart the other day though there were no obvious dents on the inside that appeared covered up. That filler/repair was done around 8 years ago. I’m not too fond of the idea of trying to find a new door. This color of my car does not seem too popular. I can look though. I don’t feel like it would be too cheap to replace the entire door. Also a junkyard door is likely to have problems of its own :unsure: .

    April 5, 2011 at 8:13 am #30127

    Well
    In your case Its the best advise I can give ya
    Seeing how You dont have ALL the right equipment i.e. Air Compressor, DA, Sanding Blocks, Plastic filler spreaders,
    Bondo File, PAINT GUN, sandpaper all the different grits and types, Not too mention Wax and grease remover, Lacquer thinner, Primmer, Paint, Clear,
    Body tools= Like Body hammers and dollies slide hammers etc…..

    Your door may look fine from the inside and Im sure an experienced body man with all the equipment could fix it fast! :stoned
    But seeing how its already been fixed with way too much Bondo before its going too need metal work to make it right.
    Wich is already a lot more than your imagining I’m sure.

    Im also sure you could find a good door for an old Mazda 626 fairly CHEAP,
    more than likely cheaper than what you could have yours fixed by a Pro at a Body shop.

    But do what you want its your car and Money :cheers

    Oh by the way I use Junk yard Parts ALL time SO do these guys!
    Way more than often there better than any AFTERMARKET china made parts out there

    April 5, 2011 at 9:28 am #30129

    :agree you could have a good used door for about $150.00 maybe less

    April 9, 2011 at 3:27 am #30238

    Yes I realize that. We have ALL the tools except for the paint gun and proper canned paint BTW. I am trying to find a gun to borrow though. I didn’t know what the body hammers or slide hammer were called till now. I used the body hammers, which I referred to as an anvil before, to remove the dent when this door got hit years ago. There are only a couple, not a huge selection. Never used or seen a slide hammer used before, but I’m pretty sure I found one :lol:. Just need to find a paint gun laying around now. I will also try to find a door, but unless its the same exact color, in GOOD shape, and really cheap I don’t see me getting one. I hope to check out a few junkyards for other parts I need. However $150 is a lot more then I want to spend to fix this. I’m a college student and don’t have that kinda cash to throw for a non-vital door just because mine doesn’t look 100% unfortunately.

    I was able to wash my car including the engine for the first time since the snow melted. So I am quiet happy with it ATM. I checked everything I KNOW of that needs attention this summer. Any work I do has to be in late May or mid June. Classes end then I am hopefully moving to an apartment within 3 weeks. I turn 21 during this time too. Best case scenario is I get everything fixed before I move. Otherwise, I will have to spend a weekend at home sometime during the summer, since is my father’s tools and garage I need to use and some pretty in depth work needs to be done on the car =(. More important then my door ATM, rubber exhaust hangers since the ones I put in 5 months ago are about to drop my newish muffler. The rear valve cover gasket is leaking, so I have oil getting into #6 cylinder spark plug well along with lots of other places is not suppose to be. That gasket is ofc buried under my exhaust manifold for starters. Brake system needs to be check thoroughly before winter. Equally important to the door ATM is the issue of the ducktape covering the hole where my antenna is suppose to be, the tiny bit of rust on front fender and bottom inside of driver’s door, and cracked windshield =(.

    So if you guys think it is a waste of time, effort, and money to try and repair the door myself cheaply. Then please suggest how best to stop it from getting worse then it currently is. Then I will simply do my best to maintain it until I can afford to repair or replace it.

    April 9, 2011 at 8:45 am #30249

    ok, So a valve cover gasket is an easy fix, Cost around $20-$50 maybe less. You will get two in the kit so just do both. The door will be fine for ahwile as long as you keep the water away from it.
    You can buy a universal antenna for like 10.00 from any parts store.

    And who need brakes? K so maybe they are needed. Most disc brake jobs for the DIY will cost 75-100 for the pads and rotors
    For the exhaust, The last time I did them on my mustang it cost me $75 for all the new hangers from a late model parts supplier these were Ford parts, So I would think you could get aftermarket ones for half that.

    The windshield you could get a quote from an auto glass company they do good work and its fairly cheap. But it will depend on the damage.

    April 9, 2011 at 10:41 am #30250

    I already have the VCG lol. Fronts been done too. Rear one is just a 6 hour job compared to 30 minuets like the front. I need some other gaskets and stuff possibly. Assuming I don’t break anything in the process.

    Antenna isn’t terribly important. I’m not sure if it is the motor or the mast. I took it out to try and fix it. Motor is lying in my room some where. Mast is stuck up inside one of the rear pillars. Unfortunately cars seem picky about antenna placement.

    Brakes are not so simple. IDK what their problem is, except they obviously hate me. Rotors, pads, calipers, brake hoses, master cylinder are all good, only the calipers are original. Brakes work great ATM, but are terrible when temperature falls below -5F. Half of the stuff I’ve replaced to fix the problem has had no effect. My brake pedal itself has pressure, as in it comes up all the way when you take your foot off it. Best way I can describe it is when it gets cold resistance in the petal drops. It will go pretty much to the floor before the car responds. If you pump it resistance will move up higher and car will brake better. 2 minuets later resistance will be back on the floor. It only happens when its really cold out which is the difficult part about it. Its like pressure isn’t maintained in the lines for some reason. I don’t loose brake fluid though =/. I did managed to stay out of the ditch this year. Fun MN/WI winters.

    Windshield needs replacing, big crack in the first layer.

    Good news is I might of found a door. I found a parts car at least. Its the right color. I’m just waiting on more pictures and prices. Rear Driver’s side door is the one I need if its OK, along with the antenna for starters. http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/pts/2307024242.html

    April 9, 2011 at 8:05 pm #30251

    well theres all your parts needed right there ……

    all off the same car cant beat that with a stick

    all so remember metal shrinks when its cold and expands when heated so your brake problem maybe temp related (Duh right) anyway that other car has all the parts heck give the guy 300.00(ya never know) for the whole car and use what ya need

    Im in wisconsin I could help ya if you were closer

    April 9, 2011 at 8:33 pm #30254

    You guys have better luck than me,I have only seen a junkyard part the same color that I need once in my 24year career 😛

    April 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm #30255

    [quote=”Jayson M” post=19952]You guys have better luck than me,I have only seen a junkyard part the same color that I need once in my 24year career :P[/quote]
    Thats cause you never called me :p
    Actually sad thing is most shops wont even order parts unless they are the same color around here :blink:

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