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  • January 25, 2013 at 11:31 pm #40606

    No damage on this one, just a 2″ scratch down to the metal, so a quick easy job really.

    I had to paint it outside as the customer was waiting for it and I had a bigger job already in the tent (Full front and rear bumpers, dented OSR quarter panel, mirror cover, and one alloy wheel).

    It wouldn’t be fair to say how much I charged as it’s all internal work. If we charged lots we’d only be making money out of our own company which doesn’t really help anybody. To give you an idea though I’d need to do at least 5 of those a day to earn my full wage. Easy in the summer, but no so easy when it’s below freezing and I even have to warm the base up to get it through the strainers!!!

    [IMG]http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn385/Duluxdude/Work/IMAG0091Medium.jpg[/IMG]

    January 26, 2013 at 1:56 am #40608

    Andy, how does your water based paint react to the weather when its raining out or snowing? Do you have a lot of redos from weather problems?

    January 26, 2013 at 2:32 am #40613

    and i thought working in a cold shop sucked. best of look to u!

    January 26, 2013 at 3:34 am #40617

    :teach This fellas is how ya make it work. Props man :cheers

    January 26, 2013 at 4:06 am #40619

    [quote=”Matrix Paint Systems” post=29590]:teach This fellas is how ya make it work. Props man :cheers[/quote]

    X2…. WOW Andy that is pretty impressive :clappy :clappy

    January 26, 2013 at 5:18 am #40625

    Damn Andy, I can’t say I am jealous of you. Nice job!

    January 26, 2013 at 5:22 am #40626

    Looks good Andy. What are you using to help get the clear to kick at those temps?

    January 26, 2013 at 5:49 am #40627

    Impressive work there Andy. :clappy

    January 26, 2013 at 7:00 am #40628

    & we have a hard time keeping dirt out of our shit, when its in the both. Great work man.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm #40638

    Thanks for the comments guys, just doing what needs to be done 🙂

    To answer some of your questions in order – I haven’t had any failures yet, but I am expecting some when the weather warms up. If there is any moisture left in the base I’m guessing it will “sweat” once the sun gets on the panel, possibly causing de-lamination. I’ve done the best I can but time will tell….

    For getting stuff dry I first try and warm the panel up with a 12″ IR lamp. Easy enough on a single panel job like this but impossible when doing several jobs around a car. The base gets blown dry with a combination of a hot air gun (lots of heat, some airflow) and a salon style hair dryer (lots of airflow, some heat). I look like something from the Wild West toting my twin guns 😆 If I’ve had to put more than 2 coats of base on for a low hiding colour I’ll give it some time with the IR lamp too, although I can’t have all three on at once or it overloads the electric supply on the van and blows the fuses.

    The clear gets flashed off with the hot air gun to get it to a dust free stage as quickly as possible, then finished off with the IR.

    January 27, 2013 at 12:32 am #40654

    Hi andy just make sure you keep that paint warm I don’t know the temps of your scheme but you defo need to Keep the cold off as when it gets cold it goes real thick and lumpy that when its no good you can try to warm it after but it won’t change it back

    Try to carpet a box/ where you store the paint why not to make a removable storage system that you could take home as I’m pretty sure if you leave it as you are it will shag your paint

    January 27, 2013 at 12:47 am #40655

    If you do a search on Andy you will see he used to paint more cars a week than all of us combined,he is a pretty smart guy 😉

    January 27, 2013 at 2:17 am #40656

    Thanks Jayson.

    DC – if you look back through this thread you’ll see I’ve already voiced my concerns over the effects of this cold temperature on the products. In particular the Autowave base. I’m intending to build an insulated storage box but haven’t got around to it yet as I’ve got so many other projects on. I do car audio fabrication as a hobby so it’ll be a breeze to knock together a decent box and I’ve got some slabs of 1″ Kingspan lying around to line it.

    Whilst I’d never suggest anyone goes against a manufacturers tech sheet for storage temps or anything else, I have been surprised at how well the Autowave copes with the cold. At sub-zero (frozen buckets of water in the van) it goes like a gel, but after warming up it reverts back to a liquid and sprays just the same. Again, it’s not something I’d recommend but it seems to cope much better than other water borne products I’ve used.

    I remember sending a batch of Lechler back to my supplier after opening the first tin. It had the consistency of rice pudding and nothing would rescue it. It turns out it was left over the weekend in the back of a delivery van as the temperature dropped well below freezing. After that they shipped and stored all of my products in the original insulated cartons 🙂

    January 27, 2013 at 3:14 am #40659

    Hey great work there Andy ! :weights
    What sort of clear and hardener are you using in these extremely low temps? Do you use your regular guns on these jobs? (Iwata’s of course) or mini guns?

    January 27, 2013 at 12:50 pm #40675

    Yer sorry Andy I did
    If you need any wood for making the storage we have some you could have that may do the job. Can I ask where did you get the scheme from I’m still looking for a static scheme don’t mind if its not water base or solvent

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