Overspray clear coat & dull area
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I have several scratches on my car. After watching some video in Youtube and other sites I decided to do the job.
I got the original pain from the dealer (agent), and then it was very hard job to find the clear coat here in my country. I just got the spray (ready for spray with hardener), I wished there was a small bottle as I saw in the video.Anyway, I followed the steps:
1- Sandpaper the small area with 1500 or 2000 grit sandpaper.
2- Clean then fill the scratches with pain by using small wood needle.
3- After the pain dry I sprayed the clear coat after covering the rest area.Unfortunately, it wasn’t good job because I faced two disappointed problems:
1- After polishing the area that I sanded still the same (dull) nothing happened as I saw in videos.2- The clear coat layer won’t go even with sandpaper, I tried but nothing happened. The problem when you look at the car directly or form the angle you will notice the marks of the clear coat even when you touch you will feel that there is a layer that not equal to the rest of the paint on the body.
I’m asking for your experience about two things:
1- How can I fix sanded areas ? It was amazing in the video how it was back after polishing.2- How can I remove added clear coat so I will get on layer? What do I need to use?
Links of video that I watched before starting the job (Note: don’t worry about the Arabic introduction text, all videos are in English).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49J5b4sAKfI&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADXzFeSTKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puamFaemhA4&feature=related
Thank you
what type of polish are you useing? … you need a pretty agressive polish/compound to buff out 2000 scratches
leveling can be done with a razor blade by dragging it over the rise to shave it down a little before sanding and polishing
I used three types, each in different day:
1- Turtle wax (RUBBING COMPOUND).
2- No7 (WHITE POLISHING COMPOUND).
3- malco (Tru-Grit ULTRA-CUTTING CREME)—
Will the razor blade smooth the surface as before? after few trys of sanding, I could have smoother than before, but still you will see the spot of clear coat when you focus or under lighting, I believe my mistake was to use spray clear coat.yah you could probably have dabbed clear with a brush
So Stone: What do you think I should do now to fix the dull area and the remaining spot of clear coat?
[b]Sayyar wrote:[/b]
[quote]So Stone: What do you think I should do now to fix the dull area and the remaining spot of clear coat?[/quote]Could you post an image of the affected area.
[b]Sayyar wrote:[/b]
[quote]I have several scratches on my car. After watching some video in Youtube and other sites I decided to do the job.
I got the original pain from the dealer (agent), and then it was very hard job to find the clear coat here in my country. I just got the spray (ready for spray with hardener), I wished there was a small bottle as I saw in the video.Anyway, I followed the steps:
1- Sandpaper the small area with 1500 or 2000 grit sandpaper.
2- Clean then fill the scratches with pain by using small wood needle.
3- After the pain dry I sprayed the clear coat after covering the rest area.Unfortunately, it wasn’t good job because I faced two disappointed problems:
1- After polishing the area that I sanded still the same (dull) nothing happened as I saw in videos.2- The clear coat layer won’t go even with sandpaper, I tried but nothing happened. The problem when you look at the car directly or form the angle you will notice the marks of the clear coat even when you touch you will feel that there is a layer that not equal to the rest of the paint on the body.
I’m asking for your experience about two things:
1- How can I fix sanded areas ? It was amazing in the video how it was back after polishing.2- [size=4][b]How can I remove added clear coat so I will get on layer? What do I need to use?[/b][/size]
Thank you[/quote]
You may be able to remove the clearcoat that you applied with some paint thinner, as long as you dont leave thinner on to long you should not damage the original paintwork.
If you soak a cloth in paint thinner and wring out most of the thinner, so that it is not dripping all over the place and keep wiping the painted surface over a period of 10-15 mins you may soften it enough for removal.
This is quite risky procedure and you should only try it if you are confident.
Also a stone says maybe the cutting compound you are using is not aggresive enough to remove the 2000 grit sanding scratches.
This is the compound that i use
[img]http://www.spraykings.com/images/products/4015/thumb_1237.gif[/img]
Yah a piture would help , but try to wash it off and start over ….. I got a 07 Dodge Ram in yesterday that a guy tried to paint over scratches much as you have and we just washed it all off with thinners on a rag and now we will do a micro touch up on the scratches with a tiny paint brush before shaving and polishing
Here are some images for different spots, it might help!
http://img25.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=93128754.jpg
Thank you for your reply guys, I’ll wait for your feedback after seeing the images.
I’m not sure what I’m even looking at there. I’d say wash it off and start over. Why & how did you spray clear over the scratch after touching it up? For this kind of fix I don’t think that’s what you wanted to do.
Hi jimmo,
Thanx for replying.
[code]I’d say wash it off and start over.[/code]
Do you mean wash it off, then start sanding& polishing over?[code]hy & how did you spray clear over the scratch after touching it up? For this kind of fix I don’t think that’s what you wanted to do[/code]
As I said before, I watched those videos, and they said you need a clear coat after touching up for protection and shinning look.How did I spray over? I covered the rest area, and I gave fast shot of spray on the scratch. I though that clear coat will easily remove with 1500-2000 sanding!
no I can’t make it out either …… :
[IMG]http://i34.tinypic.com/9hl8gj.jpg[/IMG]
You can notice here that I sanded the clear coat![IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/1072flu.jpg[/IMG]
If still both images doesn’t help, I’ll try to get other pictures today.
clearcoat isn’t meant to be sprayed in the middle of a panel, when sprayed it needs to be taken from edge to edge after a good surface preperation. What you should have done is just brushed it on, you still may not get a perfect repair without doing a full refinish on the panel. I’d wash it off with paint thinner. if the scratch isn’t too deep you can brush a bit of clear on it, then wet sand and polish. If it’s too deep you can touch it up with some basecoat first. What color is it? is this a metallic color?
Also, you want to avoid aerosol clears if thats what you are using as they offer very little protection.
(this is jimmo btw, forgot to logout of admin)
Thank you jimmo,
One last question for you: If I use paint thinner, it won’t affect the old paint?!
Honestly, I don’t know if it’s aerosol clear or not. As I mentioned before it was customized from the most famous Auto Paint shop here in my country. The label was filled by handwriting (Sikkens HS Clear).
The color of the car is (tanzanite blue metallic).
I’m not worrying now about touching up, I just want to get rid of the new layer of clear coat, and I’m satisfy in the mean time with the old look :).
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