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  • May 2, 2008 at 6:36 am #10285

    I believe it was the 15350 Super Brillant with medium hardener.Seemed to lay pretty good,at three coats with an Iwata 400 gun.

    May 6, 2008 at 5:23 am #10289

    ya wanna try what i think is better????of course im shooting an rp??

    May 6, 2008 at 5:26 am #10290

    ta be honest i think 3 coats is pushing it on a black anymore but thats just my opinion;)

    May 6, 2008 at 3:39 pm #10292

    Just thought I would give it an extra coat to offset ta buffing.

    May 9, 2008 at 6:58 pm #10306

    Just a thought, I have found that if i want to get a really good finish with black,I spray the vehicle last thing,de nib any spots and reapply final coat of base and let sit overnight.Most products have a window where you can leave base un topcoated for a period of time. I then spray clear the next morning and bake. This seems to give the best results and hold out is much better and the finish doesn’t seem to pinch off. I have even used two step bake, 15 minute bake,cool down,15 minute bake. Activating base is ok but I have found that if you have dirt problem or other,it is harder to scuff base without it plugging paper and cutting the base.

    May 10, 2008 at 9:39 am #10307

    You should always put hardener in your basecoat. It makes a *huge* difference in durability (and doesn’t require much).

    Some of the main causes of dyeback/dulling are;
    1. Topcoat applied in heavy, wet coats.
    2. Inadequate flash time between coats.
    3. Insufficient film thickness of topcoat color or clearcoat.
    4. Insufficient drying/curling of undercoats before applying clear.
    5. Using a poor grade and/or too fast evaporating thinner/reducer for spray conditions.
    6. Improper cleaning of the substrate.
    7. Insufficient air movement during and after application.
    8. Spraying over a deteriorated or solvent sensitive substrate finish without proper priming or sealing procedures.

    http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/reference/troubleshooting_guide/loss_of_gloss/index.cfm

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