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[quote=”ding”
So you were using structural adhesives for plastic repair :blink:[/quote]
I was told it was one product did everything. The shop owner is the one who told us to use it for plastic.
http://www.proformproducts.com/en/products/info/?product=201&category=24The 3m is a one product does everything. And it really does. Never had it not stick to plastic.
If they claim something, they better be able to do it.
[quote=”Glen440″ post=25335][quote=”ding”
So you were using structural adhesives for plastic repair :blink:[/quote]
I was told it was one product did everything. The shop owner is the one who told us to use it for plastic.
http://www.proformproducts.com/en/products/info/?product=201&category=24The 3m is a one product does everything. And it really does. Never had it not stick to plastic.
If they claim something, they better be able to do it.[/quote]
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We used tons of that Pro-Form when I was in the heavy truck shop. Great stuff. We used it to bond SMC and fiberglass (ie: rigid plastic) hoods together. It is supposed to get soft when heated, that is how you seperate parts (like on multi-piece hoods on Volvos and other trucks).
I can’t see that working at all of flexible plastic containing poly-olefin.
And the 3M panel bond, 8115, were you using that on plastics as well?
[quote=”Ben” post=25342][quote=”Glen440″ post=25335][quote=”ding”
So you were using structural adhesives for plastic repair :blink:[/quote]
I was told it was one product did everything. The shop owner is the one who told us to use it for plastic.
http://www.proformproducts.com/en/products/info/?product=201&category=24The 3m is a one product does everything. And it really does. Never had it not stick to plastic.
If they claim something, they better be able to do it.[/quote]
:blink:
We used tons of that Pro-Form when I was in the heavy truck shop. Great stuff. We used it to bond SMC and fiberglass (ie: rigid plastic) hoods together. It is supposed to get soft when heated, that is how you seperate parts (like on multi-piece hoods on Volvos and other trucks).
I can’t see that working at all of flexible plastic containing poly-olefin.
And the 3M panel bond, 8115, were you using that on plastics as well?[/quote]
My issue with the Pro Form was sanding it, if you heated it with the Da or grinder it started peeling. I could then pull it off. It may be fine for everything else. We had it at that shop the whole time I was there (6 years) I started using 3m for plastic and Pro Form for door skins because 3m does not have a medium dry time product, basically the slow which is 4 hour clamp time. You heat it to speed it up.
The 3m I fix bumpers with it and bake the stuff with heat gun or heat lamp to dry it. It likes heat, I think its epoxy based where Pro Form is urethane based. I have not had it not stick yet, I don’t even use adhesion promoter. I can grind it and sand it with the DA.
Lord Fusor and Duramix had specific products for what you were doing so I had no issues with them. I used Duramix for 3 years and fusor for 1.
March 1, 2012 at 7:07 am #36085i cant get away from the 8115 with the glass beads in it you cant over clamp, and it has rust inhibitors you dont have to prime the surface prior to application and if your estimator is not giving you money for priming adjacent weld panels its great.
i have used the others but some have a horrendous smell
3M rep says they will have the 8115 in the DMS gun cartridge by the end of the yearMarch 2, 2012 at 1:18 pm #36099I’m still using duramix. 3m bought them, but many of the models didn’t change at all – at least, not as far as I can tell.
for example, 4240 is the new 4040.
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