Pearl white blending
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good advise from jayson posted on another site
“The trick with 3 stages is to make absolute certain your ground/foundation coat matches the car,look in the trunk,under the sill plate or under hood and make sure your ground coat matches first by doing a spray out.A let down panel is also great advice,and generally taking an extra panel to blend is also a must and I don’t have a problem getting paid by an insurance company either.If you are doing the fender I would do the hood and door at the very minimum.
This is how I have been doing tri stage blends for over 20 years and have been successful with hundreds of them.After you spray on 2 coats of ground/foundation coat apply a clear base or orientation coat to help the pearl blend easier to your maximum blend area.Now mix your mid-coat /effect coat(pearl or candy) and reduce for spraying.Now mix your ready to spray ground coat with your ready to spray pearl coat 1:1 and apply 1-2 light coats gradually fading out to make a more uniform blend of the ground/foundation coat.
Now take your mixed and ready to spray pearl/effect color and apply one coat to your maximum blend area(this is called a reverse blend or staggering your blend) and mark it on your masking paper with a pen or sharpie.Coat #2 goes just past the fender,coat # 3 goes to say the middle of the front door but not to your maximum blend area.You should now have a smooth undetectable blend.By doing a reverse blend and marking where you are on your masking paper you know where you are at,plus you will not have a build up of pearl/effect coat in one area that will show as a color difference.Now all you have to do is clear it and be done with it.
If you have never done a 3 stage blend and you have never painted before I would seek professional help or pay a good shop to do it.If you attempt it yourself give the base lots of flash time and now you see why it is necessary to take an extra panel to give yourself more room to blend the numerous coats.Good luck and I hope this helps you. ”
This is how i did my very first pearl blend. shop owner thought I panel painted it cause he couldnt find my blend on the door 😉
Very good advice! it really is about getting the ground coat right.
how many toners in the mid/coat?[b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote]good advise from jayson posted on another site
“The trick with 3 stages is to make absolute certain your ground/foundation coat matches the car,look in the trunk,under the sill plate or under hood and make sure your ground coat matches first by doing a spray out.A let down panel is also great advice,and generally taking an extra panel to blend is also a must and I don’t have a problem getting paid by an insurance company either.If you are doing the fender I would do the hood and door at the very minimum.
This is how I have been doing tri stage blends for over 20 years and have been successful with hundreds of them.After you spray on 2 coats of ground/foundation coat apply a clear base or orientation coat to help the pearl blend easier to your maximum blend area.Now mix your mid-coat /effect coat(pearl or candy) and reduce for spraying.Now mix your ready to spray ground coat with your ready to spray pearl coat 1:1 and apply 1-2 light coats gradually fading out to make a more uniform blend of the ground/foundation coat.
Now take your mixed and ready to spray pearl/effect color and apply one coat to your maximum blend area(this is called a reverse blend or staggering your blend) and mark it on your masking paper with a pen or sharpie.Coat #2 goes just past the fender,coat # 3 goes to say the middle of the front door but not to your maximum blend area.You should now have a smooth undetectable blend.By doing a reverse blend and marking where you are on your masking paper you know where you are at,plus you will not have a build up of pearl/effect coat in one area that will show as a color difference.Now all you have to do is clear it and be done with it.
If you have never done a 3 stage blend and you have never painted before I would seek professional help or pay a good shop to do it.If you attempt it yourself give the base lots of flash time and now you see why it is necessary to take an extra panel to give yourself more room to blend the numerous coats.Good luck and I hope this helps you. ”
This is how i did my very first pearl blend. shop owner thought I panel painted it cause he couldnt find my blend on the door ;)[/quote]
That is definately a little different…I’ve always had great success with the method I was taught when I went to school which is the same as what DuPont, PPG, and SW preach (in regards to solvent).
I have had so/so success with blending the newer formulas that have the ground/mid together. obviously the nature of a tri-stage makes it ideal for blending.
good advise from jayson posted on another site
“The trick with 3 stages is to make absolute certain your ground/foundation coat matches the car,look in the trunk,under the sill plate or under hood and make sure your ground coat matches first by doing a spray out.:whistle:
Ben, the ground/mid mix is just a coat or two in between your ground and mid-coat. Just to help blending. You can’t even tell it has pearl in the white once mixed. It just shades the white more like the final color. Helps with making a smoother transition.
That is excellent advice on 3-stages Jayson. :cheers
That should be a sticky!
[b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
[quote]That is excellent advice on 3-stages Jayson. :cheersThat should be a sticky![/quote]
a sticky right hand or a sticky left hand :stonedI was taught this technique years ago by a sikkens tech rep,and now he runs the western canada training center in Vancouver,no sheet I bet he is 60 years old and still at the top of his game. :wak We are so busy in our paint shop when it comes to 3 stages I don’t do let down panels anymore,I just wing it with this technique.The trick once again is to have the right foundation color,reverse blending,and stagger your coats of pearl.After 20 plus years it’s second nature 😉
:pcorn:
So to reverse blend the midcoat, just blend each coat further in?
Is stagger means painting 45degrees in both directions?
[b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote]So to reverse blend the midcoat, just blend each coat further in?Is stagger means painting 45degrees in both directions?[/quote]
Heres a visual for you. say you painted the fender and blended the doora reverse blend would be this.
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0629.jpg[/IMG]A staggered reverse blend or what ever you want to call it would be this
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0630.jpg[/IMG]the angle of the gun doesnt change regardless of which method you choose
[b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote]So to reverse blend the midcoat, just blend each coat further in?Is stagger means painting 45degrees in both directions?[/quote]
Heres a visual for you. say you painted the fender and blended the doora reverse blend would be this.
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0629.jpg[/IMG]A staggered reverse blend or what ever you want to call it would be this
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0630.jpg[/IMG]the angle of the gun doesnt change regardless of which method you choose[/quote]
Ding ,
This is SOOOO much :woohoo: easier for me to understand ( sorry, I am really new to this ). THANKS A BUNCH!
Just out of curiosity. If for any reason, more than 3 coats of midcoat is needed, how do I manage to stagger blend? Or, where does the additional coat(s) needs to be stopped at???
[b]Jayson M wrote:[/b]
[quote]I was taught this technique years ago by a sikkens tech rep,and now he runs the western canada training center in Vancouver,no sheet I bet he is 60 years old and still at the top of his game. :wak We are so busy in our paint shop when it comes to 3 stages I don’t do let down panels anymore,I just wing it with this technique.The trick once again is to have the right foundation color,reverse blending,and stagger your coats of pearl.After 20 plus years it’s second nature ;)[/quote]
glad to see that i’m not the only one to wing it. honestly once you do one you remember what is what for each manufacture.
also the way i was taught, was to use clear base coat. apply it first, then after baseing, mix it with the pearl and do a fina blend.[b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote]So to reverse blend the midcoat, just blend each coat further in?Is stagger means painting 45degrees in both directions?[/quote]
Heres a visual for you. say you painted the fender and blended the doora reverse blend would be this.
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0629.jpg[/IMG]A staggered reverse blend or what ever you want to call it would be this
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0630.jpg[/IMG]the angle of the gun doesnt change regardless of which method you choose[/quote]
Ding ,
This is SOOOO much :woohoo: easier for me to understand ( sorry, I am really new to this ). THANKS A BUNCH!
Just out of curiosity. If for any reason, more than 3 coats of midcoat is needed, how do I manage to stagger blend? Or, where does the additional coat(s) needs to be stopped at???[/quote]
this is why you do a let down card first. once you detrimine how many coats you need, you just do the same.[b]lild wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote][b]stanclub wrote:[/b]
[quote]So to reverse blend the midcoat, just blend each coat further in?Is stagger means painting 45degrees in both directions?[/quote]
Heres a visual for you. say you painted the fender and blended the doora reverse blend would be this.
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0629.jpg[/IMG]A staggered reverse blend or what ever you want to call it would be this
[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/IMG_0630.jpg[/IMG]the angle of the gun doesnt change regardless of which method you choose[/quote]
Ding ,
This is SOOOO much :woohoo: easier for me to understand ( sorry, I am really new to this ). THANKS A BUNCH!
Just out of curiosity. If for any reason, more than 3 coats of midcoat is needed, how do I manage to stagger blend? Or, where does the additional coat(s) needs to be stopped at???[/quote]
this is why you do a let down card first. once you detrimine how many coats you need, you just do the same.[/quote]Got ya. I will do my test panel again. I did it once but I think I have moved my gun too quick and did not overlay each pass enough ……. I was nervous since this is very new to me.
What I was trying to find out is how far I need to paint 4th ( or more ) coats if it is needed. I can see to paint each coat inward toward base. But if using the stagger, do I lay my 4th coat in between 1st and 3rd? ( so each coat moving toward 1st coat closer ? )
Thanks
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