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  • December 8, 2010 at 9:21 am #26020

    im in an ongoing project to paint my car, and i am thinking of buying one of these but i just dont know witch one to use since ive heard great things about boths. i just really havent heard actual painters opinion on these clears? any thoughts? recommendations?

    December 8, 2010 at 11:11 am #26022

    The 2042 is a compliant clear for califonia and the 2002 clear is a good speed clear out of dust in 15-20 min using DFX11 hardener but takes 12 to cure at 70 degrees F(unless you got a heated booth) I have been hearing about the Shopline clears like JC660, JC661, JC60 Spraying like DC3000 Clear but Cost Half the Money I havent checked Prices on this but they were claiming to 100-150 for the setup (gallon clear and quart hardener)I will ask the rep tomarrow what current prices are maybe someone else can chime in and give better info

    December 9, 2010 at 12:46 am #26025

    ive seen some shopline clears but i was told that the shine of those dies of real quick! all im really wondering is witch clear is the best, i dont mind paying a good amount for a good clear!

    December 9, 2010 at 2:20 am #26026

    honestly nothing wrong with either one. 2002 is a little bit thicker than 2021. both spray and look very nice.

    December 9, 2010 at 9:38 am #26036

    you want good clear lets bring out the Glasurit stuff lol 923-109 cost about $450 a gallon

    Im to poor for Glasurit :unsure:

    December 9, 2010 at 6:14 pm #26041

    Glaso stuff is nice but 923-109 isn’t that great,I would much rather use 2021,more user friendly.Since you brought up other clears,Lesonal glamour clear is about $150 a kit(it looks awesome and stays that way,and it’s high solids),Sikkens HS+ is also nice,and superior 250 is the bomb…but it’s for water only.

    December 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm #26044

    [quote=”Jayson M” post=16055]Glaso stuff is nice but 923-109 isn’t that great,I would much rather use 2021,more user friendly.Since you brought up other clears,Lesonal glamour clear is about $150 a kit(it looks awesome and stays that way,and it’s high solids),Sikkens HS+ is also nice,and superior 250 is the bomb…but it’s for water only.[/quote]
    Dont listen to Jay. He just doesnt like Chip Foose and Foose uses BASF products so he hates those too :p :p :pcorn:

    December 9, 2010 at 6:44 pm #26045

    $450 a gallon. Man someone is getting butt raped. It’s $197 for 5 liters here. I am not sure there is a clear out there I would pay $450 for.

    You will have good luck with both 2002 and 2021. They are both nice clears. Are you shooting in a booth or a garage?

    December 9, 2010 at 7:55 pm #26046

    [quote=”ding” post=16058][quote=”Jayson M” post=16055]Glaso stuff is nice but 923-109 isn’t that great,I would much rather use 2021,more user friendly.Since you brought up other clears,Lesonal glamour clear is about $150 a kit(it looks awesome and stays that way,and it’s high solids),Sikkens HS+ is also nice,and superior 250 is the bomb…but it’s for water only.[/quote]
    Dont listen to Jay. He just doesnt like Chip Foose and Foose uses BASF products so he hates those too :p :p :pcorn:[/quote]
    :rofl :clappy

    December 9, 2010 at 8:39 pm #26047

    [quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=16059]$450 a gallon. Man someone is getting butt raped. It’s $197 for 5 liters here. I am not sure there is a clear out there I would pay $450 for.

    You will have good luck with both 2002 and 2021. They are both nice clears. Are you shooting in a booth or a garage?[/quote]
    You’re right on that one ryan. But maybe he’s adding in the $100 give or take per quart of hardener. that will put ya closer to 400-450 but that would be for 7.5 sprayable liters

    December 10, 2010 at 2:31 am #26056

    [quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=16059]$450 a gallon. Man someone is getting butt raped. It’s $197 for 5 liters here. I am not sure there is a clear out there I would pay $450 for.

    You will have good luck with both 2002 and 2021. They are both nice clears. Are you shooting in a booth or a garage?[/quote]

    I will be spraying it at school in a devilbis booth, with bake and everything! i just want to get a top of the line clear, something i know will last long n shine good! :rock

    December 10, 2010 at 2:44 am #26057

    ya I was including hardener clear itself is 227 for me. as far as I know thats just a lower glasurit clear im sure they have nicer stuff but its outa my range.

    December 10, 2010 at 6:56 am #26060

    i’ve used 2002 for my all ovrrs and on my personal cars. great clear and last a long time.
    how ever, expect to bake it for 45 mins..

    December 10, 2010 at 9:35 am #26062

    [quote=”ding” post=16058][quote=”Jayson M” post=16055]Glaso stuff is nice but 923-109 isn’t that great,I would much rather use 2021,more user friendly.Since you brought up other clears,Lesonal glamour clear is about $150 a kit(it looks awesome and stays that way,and it’s high solids),Sikkens HS+ is also nice,and superior 250 is the bomb…but it’s for water only.[/quote]
    Dont listen to Jay. He just doesnt like Chip Foose and Foose uses BASF products so he hates those too :p :p :pcorn:[/quote]

    Come to think of it don’t you use basf too dinger….one more reason not to like it :clappy :clappy

    December 11, 2010 at 10:38 am #26092

    isnt the 2002-2042 mid lvl clears and the DC4000 the better stuff for overalls? and the DC3000 For panel repair.
    Cost is about the same for all I see.

    DCU2002 = 243.55 gallon + 100.95 DCX61 quart of hardener
    DCU2021 = 198.10 gallon + DCX61 Hardener

    DCU2042 = 223.95 gallon + DCX61 Hardener

    DC3000 = 167.30 gallon + DCH3085 68.20 quart hardener
    DC4000 = 218.05 gallon + DCH3085

    Prices are Shop price list from my ppg software Dated oct 4, 2010

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