Problem with white paint
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Hi there, I am an old fart, got into the business of buying cars and repair them for a little profit to suplement my retirement income (not enough). This is my problem I goy a white Civic 2001 with repaired fenders and hood which I have sanded and painted three times and the filler still bleeds thru, I have a pretty good idea how to shoot paint by no means a pro, rather a bad amateur, purchase a Finishline 3 1.3 tip thats what I could efford, the paint comes out fairly well but three days later it bleeds. The paint I am using is Nason. What am I doing wrong. please help.
Thanks
after you do your filler work… what grade of paper do you finish on ?
and you are applying a primer over the repairs?
tommy
are you saying your primer is showing through the paint? I have used nason before and found it to be very thin, try using a white valushade or a white sealer over the primer area before the paint to help with coverage. Ask your jobber they can help you.
I used a fair bit of Nason.
I would suggest finishing your bodywork in 180-220 on the filler and 320-400 on the painted areas. Use the 421-17 or421-19 2k primer over the repair (3-4 coats). That will fill as good as any other primer surfacer. Also, that primer sands nice and has excellent holdout. I have a feeling you are doing (or not doing) something with regards to the priming.
Weather you are using the b/c or either of the Nason SS, they are all a little transparent, but even with white, should hide decent enough (2-3 coats for the SS and 3-4 for the base).
I prime the filler and around it the filler I sand with 150 then 220, prime 2 o 3 coats and 600 to finish and is not tyhe primer that bleeds is the fillerr even after primer
Are you using red cream hardener in your filler and a 1k primer?
Are you using red cream hardener in your filler and a 1k primer?
[quote=”bloverby” post=23917]Are you using red cream hardener in your filler and a 1k primer?[/quote]
I’d be asking the same question. Plus – what exactly do you mean by “bleeds”, just to make sure we’re all talking about the same thing 🙂
If you can see a kind of stain where the filler is then you may well have used too much hardener in it.
I am using 3M platinum filler with blue hardener, universal primer, cheap primer
Let me take this opurtiunity to thank every one responding to my post. Thank you guys.Is the universal primer a 1k or 2K(has to be activated) product.
the primer is 1K, is a cheap single component, that might be the problem, I should use 2K. You think?
[quote=”chumpi” post=23921]I am using 3M platinum filler with blue hardener, universal primer, cheap primer
Let me take this opurtiunity to thank every one responding to my post. Thank you guys.[/quote]Like I said before, use a 2k urethane primer surfacer. Since you are using Nason, try their 421-17 or 421-19. It is very inexpensive and is still a very decent quality. You will NOT have bleed through issues with this stuff. If you are using the Nason 421-30 Universal primer, stop. That is a 1k primer and is junk. If you are in a VOC regulated area and are limited to what you can get (where the 421-19 is not avaliable) use the Nason 421-10 2k urethane.
If you insist on using a 1k primer, you will have issues…
Hi Ben, is not a matter of insisting, is a matter of inexperience, I am not a pro like you, I realy apreciate the fact you you guys have taken the time to answer my question, I realy do and I will follow your advise.
Thank you very very much
[quote=”Ben” post=23925][quote=”chumpi” post=23921]I am using 3M platinum filler with blue hardener, universal primer, cheap primer
Let me take this opurtiunity to thank every one responding to my post. Thank you guys.[/quote]Like I said before, use a 2k urethane primer surfacer. Since you are using Nason, try their 421-17 or 421-19. It is very inexpensive and is still a very decent quality. You will NOT have bleed through issues with this stuff. If you are using the Nason 421-30 Universal primer, stop. That is a 1k primer and is junk. If you are in a VOC regulated area and are limited to what you can get (where the 421-19 is not avaliable) use the Nason 421-10 2k urethane.
If you insist on using a 1k primer, you will have issues…[/quote]
unless….. ya just use a cheap 1k sealer then u would be golden :teachBleed can be caused by putting to much hardener in the filler as some one mentioned.
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