quick question. SATA
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mmm mmm… make that 3 :whistle:
OT: Ryan, check your PM, I owe you!
[quote=”Nexson” post=14657]OT: Ryan, check your PM, I owe you![/quote]
Don’t worry, this tread was hijacked to sh!t long before you got here :deadhorse
i dont think it was hijacked :blink: i was the one who changed the subject.
By putting an RP fluid set in an HVLP, Im sure the results will not be that great. But…It doesnt sound like anyone has tryed it yet so whats the harm in it. I just think that its interesting to expirement with things.
Besides I dont think that Sata will be lowering the price on the 3000s anytime soon. They will just release the 4000s at a stupidly high price.
[quote=”Underpaid Painter” post=14664]By putting an RP fluid set in an HVLP, Im sure the results will not be that great. But…It doesnt sound like anyone has tryed it yet so whats the harm in it. I just think that its interesting to expirement with things.
Besides I dont think that Sata will be lowering the price on the 3000s anytime soon. They will just release the 4000s at a stupidly high price.[/quote]
Time will tell, I can’t wait to demo one
well i’m gettin ready to let you know what happens, and besides both guns have a max 29 psi.. so i’m gona test it some sealer.
ok. here’s the verdict.
after takeing both guns apart, which the guns body’s are identicle, execpt the hvlp and rp markings. i looked at the little black plastic piece that is behind the tip. i will call this the air channel thingy.
well after lookin at both black thingy’s. they both have the same amount of air chanells, and they’re all in the same position, the only difference is the openings on the rp are slightly bigger than the hvlp. but these will stay in place for the sake of science.any ways, i put the rp, needle, tip, and air cap on the hvlp. went in to spray my sealer on bumper cover.
so what i did, i set the psi at 30 max for hvlp setting. i have the expsenvie sata gauge so i know i had the correct psi.pulled the trigger, psi sounded a little low. began to spray the cover, too much fluid, bumped up the psi, to 35 max for rp settings according to the gauge. much better but still put a lot of fluid. either way, very little orange peel. but then agian the sealer is reduced.
so i conclude 2 things. even though both of my guns are 1.3’s. it sprayed like a 1.4-1.5 tip. and the psi would need to be more like 40-45 depending on what you sprayed.
so it pretty muched sprayed like my old sata 90. a little playing around with the settings, and i’m sure it would spray nicely.
so yes you can switch the parts, and the gun will spray fine, the only parts you might not be able to chage is the black air channel thingy’s.
but it is workable. is it worth it? ???????? depends on how much coin you save.Spraying sealer isn’t going to show anything,clear is what you need to try it on.The “black thingy” is called an air distribution ring.I thought there was a brass restictor up inside the handle where the air inlet is.Very interesting try some clear next.
i love to try some clear with this, but i don’t have a pos waiting to be painted. and besides i thought the sealer was a good ideal. it’s reduced, my clear is 2k. but i’m temped on this eclipse i got in there now.
why not??
ok. clear coat test subject. 08′ eclipse. new hood, blending the color on the center of the front cover, blending the fenders.
clear—ppg dc3000 w/dch95 hardner.
so i decided to start with the front cover since it was off the car.
set fan control know with the little arrow pointing up to the cup. my usual setting.
set psi to max hvlp setting. 30 psi. start on one side. dry spray. yep like there wasn’t enough psi. up the psi to rp setting max 35. a little better, with orange peel. this is on one side. uped the psi. to 45. a little more better, so turned the fan knob to where the arrow was pointing to the air hose inlet. much better.after this setting, i notice that when i pulled the trigger, in the middle of the fan spray, i could see a stream of clear in the middle of it. no it wasn’t puttering, just a striaght stream.
so i decided to go and change out the guns back to there settings before finishing the job.
so it seemed to work fine with reduced sealer, but i was right as to putting to much out. the other cover i sealed was a rock chip infested, that i sanded out to make look pretty. i use the new envirobase sealer, and normally it won’t show cut through rings, but it did too night as if i soaked it on.
2k clear–nope.the test for was a FAIL.
Well hate to say I told ya so….. Spraying at 45psi is not going to save you any material and defeats the purpose.If this swap was a go sata would have said it was a go a long time ago.The only hvlp I know that you can change to a compliant gun is the Devilbiss GTI to a Devilbiss Plus by changing the fluid tip and air cap.
[quote=”Jayson M” post=14674]Well hate to say I told ya so….. Spraying at 45psi is not going to save you any material and defeats the purpose.If this swap was a go sata would have said it was a go a long time ago.The only hvlp I know that you can change to a compliant gun is the Devilbiss GTI to a Devilbiss Plus by changing the fluid tip and air cap.[/quote]
That new Iwata HVLP has a tip and cap that make it shoot like a compliant, the rep let me demo it not to long ago. Sprayed pretty good, still love my 3000 though
Thanks for the test lild! I love hearing about quirky gun set ups;) At least we all know what happens now! I dont blame you for ging back to the “factory” set up. I woulnt want to try an explain to my boss why my paint job is all jacked up:rofl
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