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  • August 11, 2013 at 3:53 pm #44021

    [quote=”reckless” post=32713]

    First ever pull on my Supernova clear

    [IMG]http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn385/Duluxdude/Work/WS400-01.jpg[/IMG]

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    Still the first image to come up on Google images when you search for “Iwata Supernova”

    Hey, I’m famous :rofl

    August 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm #44023

    hey u tried the ws400 hd yet?

    August 11, 2013 at 5:46 pm #44024

    Not sure if we get the same models as you but if you mean the WS400 with one of the HD fluid nozzle then yes, I’ve used one extensively.

    My own gun has the original 1.3 Clear nozzle but I used a buddies 1.3 HD EVO model for about 6 months. A welcome improvement in output over my regular 1.3 I reckon.

    I’ve recently gone back to my old job and the company has bought themselves the same gun (WS400 EVO 1.3HD) after seeing the results I got with one in the past, so I’m using that rather than my own.

    I may eventually upgrade my own gun to the HD nozzle but I’ve got a hankering for a 4000RP. I demo’d one a while back but the 1.2 it had fitted wasn’t fast enough for me. To be fair I’ve no need to change but I just like shiny new stuff :exci And the fact that my Iwata is falling apart! They really aren’t as sturdy as the old W400 guns. I have a couple of those that still look great after many years of (ab)use, but the supernova is a wreck. The control knobs all fall off (sorted with the EVO model by screwing them in place), and all of the chrome is flaking off the air cap! :blink: A bit like the cars that Pininfarina also designed – sweet when they work but not built to last forever…

    The other painters at work don’t seem to be able to get the same results out of the supernova as me. I haven’t actually seen them painting (only the aftermath) but I’ve heard one of them likes to spray from pretty far away, which doesn’t really get the job done with one of these.

    August 12, 2013 at 8:31 am #44030

    [quote=”Andy T” post=32722]Not sure if we get the same models as you but if you mean the WS400 with one of the HD fluid nozzle then yes, I’ve used one extensively.

    My own gun has the original 1.3 Clear nozzle but I used a buddies 1.3 HD EVO model for about 6 months. A welcome improvement in output over my regular 1.3 I reckon.

    I’ve recently gone back to my old job and the company has bought themselves the same gun (WS400 EVO 1.3HD) after seeing the results I got with one in the past, so I’m using that rather than my own.

    I may eventually upgrade my own gun to the HD nozzle but I’ve got a hankering for a 4000RP. I demo’d one a while back but the 1.2 it had fitted wasn’t fast enough for me. To be fair I’ve no need to change but I just like shiny new stuff :exci And the fact that my Iwata is falling apart! They really aren’t as sturdy as the old W400 guns. I have a couple of those that still look great after many years of (ab)use, but the supernova is a wreck. The control knobs all fall off (sorted with the EVO model by screwing them in place), and all of the chrome is flaking off the air cap! :blink: A bit like the cars that Pininfarina also designed – sweet when they work but not built to last forever…

    The other painters at work don’t seem to be able to get the same results out of the supernova as me. I haven’t actually seen them painting (only the aftermath) but I’ve heard one of them likes to spray from pretty far away, which doesn’t really get the job done with one of these.[/quote]

    cool

    August 12, 2013 at 9:03 pm #44031

    on a note as someone mentioned transfer rates of conventional guns being low ,this is a fallacy and they are no where nears as bad as is often claimed in fact with HS materials they can achieve higher transfer rates than HVLP ,take for instance the Devilbiss JGA Pro ,it has a transfer rate of 63% only fractionaly below a compliant gun ,HVLP lacks the velocity needed to keep heavier material in flight and as such this can dramaticaly effect its transfer rates when used with heavier materials ,but heres another concideration ,conventional guns give by far the finest finish results so you wont need to sand off all the “extra” paint you put on with those inferior HVLP guns ,its one thing putting more paint on the panel but very much another if it goese on like pudding 😉

    if you want to put what i am saying to the test try comparing a conventional gun with a HVLP using high build primer and whatch the spatter all over the floor off the HVLP whilst the conventional will keep everything nice tight and even ,if the HVLP can actualy cope at all with high build that is 😉

    August 14, 2013 at 6:24 am #44057

    [quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=32729]on a note as someone mentioned transfer rates of conventional guns being low ,this is a fallacy and they are no where nears as bad as is often claimed in fact with HS materials they can achieve higher transfer rates than HVLP ,take for instance the Devilbiss JGA Pro ,it has a transfer rate of 63% only fractionaly below a compliant gun ,HVLP lacks the velocity needed to keep heavier material in flight and as such this can dramaticaly effect its transfer rates when used with heavier materials ,but heres another concideration ,conventional guns give by far the finest finish results so you wont need to sand off all the “extra” paint you put on with those inferior HVLP guns ,its one thing putting more paint on the panel but very much another if it goese on like pudding 😉

    if you want to put what i am saying to the test try comparing a conventional gun with a HVLP using high build primer and whatch the spatter all over the floor off the HVLP whilst the conventional will keep everything nice tight and even ,if the HVLP can actualy cope at all with high build that is ;-)[/quote]
    agreed

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