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  • March 12, 2009 at 2:02 pm #13283

    Okay lads

    I am a Sata virgin but thinking of buying one the next time i buy a gun, the choice in the UK at the moment, meaning the top two sata guns are.

    [b]Sata jet 3000 b ( blue star) RP[/b] With tip sizes from 1.2 through to 1.6

    or

    [b]Sata jet 3000 b green star hvlp[/b] With tip sizes 1.2 1.3 1.4 and a special WSB tip witch i suppose is for waterborne

    March 12, 2009 at 5:42 pm #13287

    Great guns, well built, but parts are kinda pricey.

    So you are deciding between HVLP and RP?

    HVLP is mostly used for basecoats, but it will shoot clear just fine.
    RP is a compliant gun, mostly used for clearcoats, it sprays faster and atomizes better. But it can also shoots base.

    I would go with 1.3 on both.

    March 13, 2009 at 2:28 pm #13302

    I own a couple RP guns. I have a 2000 and a 3000. I think the RP works better for clear. As far as what tip size it varies with me. We use a couple different clears so I have a couple different tip sizes I use. For Spies Hecker 8600 I use a 1.2. Actually the RP with a 1.2 is the only thing I can get that clear to spray with. All other clears I use a 1.3.

    For basecoat I have used the HVLP model(green star) and it works pretty good. Not better than my Iwata or my Tekna.

    What are you wanting to spray with the gun? Base or clear?

    Have you tried the GTI Pro with the T2 aircap for clear? That setup is supposed to be close to a RP.

    March 13, 2009 at 5:56 pm #13304

    ryanbrown999 ,
    do you have the purple/orange cap on your Iwata to spray basecoat?

    March 13, 2009 at 6:13 pm #13305

    Yes I have the silver, orange and purple aircap for my LPH400. I even have the blue aircap for my W400:)

    March 13, 2009 at 8:32 pm #13306

    [b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
    [quote]Yes I have the silver, orange and purple aircap for my LPH400. I even have the blue aircap for my W400:)[/quote]

    Nice!

    How do you like the orange cap?

    Have you sprayed mettalics specialty silver with it? How does it perform?

    March 13, 2009 at 8:50 pm #13307

    [b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
    [quote]I own a couple RP guns. I have a 2000 and a 3000. I think the RP works better for clear. As far as what tip size it varies with me. We use a couple different clears so I have a couple different tip sizes I use. For Spies Hecker 8600 I use a 1.2. Actually the RP with a 1.2 is the only thing I can get that clear to spray with. All other clears I use a 1.3.

    For basecoat I have used the HVLP model(green star) and it works pretty good. Not better than my Iwata or my Tekna.

    What are you wanting to spray with the gun? Base or clear?

    Have you tried the GTI Pro with the T2 aircap for clear? That setup is supposed to be close to a RP.[/quote]

    Yes thought i would get the Sata greenstar for base application, i am using the gti pro at the moment for waterbase base coat application.

    i always used a 1.4 for clearcoat i like it wet lol.

    I am a bit of a gun junky

    March 13, 2009 at 9:39 pm #13309

    Zarbat, I love the orange cap for basecoat. When we sprayed solvent it is all I would use for metallics and pearls. I used between 16 to 19 psi with the fan turned in a little. Keep your distance a little farther back than you would with the LV4.

    March 13, 2009 at 9:49 pm #13310

    Nick, something you may want to look into is an Iwata WBX. In the states Iwata sells an orange cap called the LVX and it is for basecoats. It comes on the LPH-400 which is hvlp. In the UK the sell the WBX which is a W-400lv with a gold cap for basecoat. I have heard through the grapevine that the orange aircap and the gold are one in the same. After hearing this I put my orange cap on my W-400lv and used it for waterborne basecoat and loved it. The metallic control is great and it wets up the panel alot nicer than the LPH. I think compliant guns work better than hvlp for waterborne basecoat in my experience.

    I have also used the SATA wsb and I thought the Iwata had the edge. It uses a lower pressure so it was easier to keep my overspray down and control the color.

    Something to think about! Either way I don’t think you could go wrong with either gun as both are very nice.

    March 14, 2009 at 4:10 pm #13345

    [b]ryanbrown999 wrote:[/b]
    [quote]Nick, something you may want to look into is an Iwata WBX. In the states Iwata sells an orange cap called the LVX and it is for basecoats. It comes on the LPH-400 which is hvlp. In the UK the sell the WBX which is a W-400lv with a gold cap for basecoat. I have heard through the grapevine that the orange aircap and the gold are one in the same. After hearing this I put my orange cap on my W-400lv and used it for waterborne basecoat and loved it. The metallic control is great and it wets up the panel alot nicer than the LPH. I think compliant guns work better than hvlp for waterborne basecoat in my experience.

    I have also used the SATA wsb and I thought the Iwata had the edge. It uses a lower pressure so it was easier to keep my overspray down and control the color.

    Something to think about! Either way I don’t think you could go wrong with either gun as both are very nice.[/quote]

    Cheers ryan

    I will give the Iwata some thought also i take it this is the gun you refer to

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Anest-Iwata-W400WBX-Waterbased-Refinish-Spray-Gun_W0QQitemZ250381539935QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint?hash=item250381539935&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

    March 14, 2009 at 4:52 pm #13346

    That would be it.
    [url]http://www.anest-iwata.co.uk/objects/altre/w400wbx_uk.pdf[/url]

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