Sata 3000 RP 1.3 gun adjustment
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Sata says for best performance the pattern and material controls should wide open –but the single stage urethane I was spraying a while back sprayed very light and a little dry,,, even with the air set down around 29- 30 psi—Are you other guys that have these guns finding that you need to adjust the pattern in some with some materials to get it spray a little wetter and lay the down a little heavier coat?
Thanks
All paint guns are set up the same…that is, adjusted to what suits you. Every paint sprays different, and every painter applies with a different technique. Play with the gun setting, and adjust your technique. If you want it wetter, move in a little closer to the panel and do slightly slower passes, possibly with a little more overlap. You may also adjust the paint and use a slower reducer/activator and maybe a little more solvent.
Just practice and make it work…you have a very good gun to work with.
Good luck!
i always spray with it wide open but increase, decrease the air pressure as needed. some materials spray better with smaller or larger tips so thats something you should check the product TDS for to see whats recommended. and lastly your problem with the ss white might of just been a clogged air cap.
[quote=”Ben” post=17934]All paint guns are set up the same..[/quote]
:huh:
[quote=”Ben” post=17934].that is, adjusted to what suits you. [/quote]
Just messin’ Ben, but if someone were to take that quote out of context, it could get you shot 😆 :hunt
Completely agree with you though – there are so many variables that no-one can ever give another painter exact setting to copy. They can be a good starter, but the real skill in painting (in my humble opinion) is being able to fine tune the gun like you say, to suit oneself, and of course the material and spraying environment.
Tip size should have been OK for this material according to the technical data sheet. —I am confident that the gun was clean—-the results were not that bad but could have been better. MoCoke do you ever find yourself shooting at less than 29 psi?
I adjust my fan in some and do spray below 29 psi for a lot of things. Any medium solids product I will spray around 25-28 psi. The smaller the fan the less pressure you will need. I get the best results when I spray close to the panel for most products.
[quote=”Andy T” post=17957][quote=”Ben” post=17934]All paint guns are set up the same..[/quote]
:huh:
[quote=”Ben” post=17934].that is, adjusted to what suits you. [/quote]
Just messin’ Ben, but if someone were to take that quote out of context, it could get you shot 😆 :hunt
Completely agree with you though – there are so many variables that no-one can ever give another painter exact setting to copy. They can be a good starter, but the real skill in painting (in my humble opinion) is being able to fine tune the gun like you say, to suit oneself, and of course the material and spraying environment.[/quote]
I should have said all paint guns are set up using the same methods… :rofl
I HAVE A SATA3000 still can not get a grip with the gun ,wish i kept my devilbiss.
[quote=”PAINTPOT” post=18295]I HAVE A SATA3000 still can not get a grip with the gun ,wish i kept my devilbiss.[/quote]
I wasn’t keen either to be honest, but they are clearly great guns that give great results if they suit you.
My main gripe with SATA is the ridiculous fan adjustment. For me, once my fan is set, it stays set. Why do I need to be able to rapidly adjust it from wide to spot, when in doing so I’d have to make several other adjustments to the gun anyway. It just doesn’t make sense.
Of course it’s a bit of sour grapes coming from me if I’m honest. I’m a lefty, so as soon as I pick up any SATA gun my trigger finger instantly knocks the fan knob onto spot. That’s caused me some grief in the past :rofl
[quote=”Andy T” post=18298][quote=”PAINTPOT” post=18295]I HAVE A SATA3000 still can not get a grip with the gun ,wish i kept my devilbiss.[/quote]
I wasn’t keen either to be honest, but they are clearly great guns that give great results if they suit you.
My main gripe with SATA is the ridiculous fan adjustment. For me, once my fan is set, it stays set. Why do I need to be able to rapidly adjust it from wide to spot, when in doing so I’d have to make several other adjustments to the gun anyway. It just doesn’t make sense.
Of course it’s a bit of sour grapes coming from me if I’m honest. I’m a lefty, so as soon as I pick up any SATA gun my trigger finger instantly knocks the fan knob onto spot. That’s caused me some grief in the past :rofl[/quote]
Fuking lefties! 😛 They used to make a conversion kit to move the fan knob but I think they quit. Your lucky over there Andy, they gave you’ll the good Iwata. We get all the hvlp ones. 😡
for the last 2 weeks i’ve been useing the jaysonm set up. and been very surprised and happy with the results. i used to have a tight fan spray like a sata 90, and for a long time had problems with the clear, hit and miss thing. now i have open the fan wide open and then turn the knob back in to where the arrow is pointing at the trigger, and set the psi to 32. i’ve always had the trigger set to wide open. and i have to move a little slower than jayson, why you ask. well he has a 1.4 setup so he can get a little more fluid out, but with this set up it’s not much slower.
i also agree with the others depending on the product you may have to play with it some. another thing to point is, your psi, is it set at the wall or the gun, if it’s at the wall you may need to set it 10 psi higher, to get 32 at the gun. that’s what i got to do untill i get my sata adamII.
[quote=”ryanbrown999″ post=18299]
Fuking lefties! 😛 They used to make a conversion kit to move the fan knob but I think they quit. Your lucky over there Andy, they gave you’ll the good Iwata. We get all the hvlp ones. :x[/quote]That’s the funny thing. I’d like to try a hvlp version for base, but we can’t get them over here, either to buy or demo. I’ve been playing around putting some water base through the WS400 clear, with mixed results. It lays down the wet coats like a dream, but with this DeBeer the last coat has to be applied at low pressure to give poor atomisation leaving a 180 grit type texture. I’m struggling to get the WS400 to do that, as it’ll just keep on atomising. Turn the pressure down too far and it messes up the fan pattern. I’d definitely like to try the base version, but then I can’t really fault the W400WBX, I just want a shiny new toy :whistle:
The LS400 base version works very well with waterborne. It sprayed Sikkens Autowave better than any other gun I have used. Only downfall is you have to make sure the wedges stay clean as the waterborne likes to clog them, but I’m sure your already used to that. I have tried both LS400 versions for clear and the hybrid is a huge improvement over the regular but I am still trying to get a hold of a WS to try out. I think the extra pressure at the nozzle would be nice as the clear we use is pretty thick.
I know exactly what your talking about when you say to get it to not atomize as much you loose your pattern. The lph-400 was like that for base with the silver cap. The orange (in your case gold) cap fixed that. The fan being even from top to bottom on the LS or WS is alot nicer for base IMO. If you ever get a hair up your azz and want to order one from the states let me know, I’ll see what I can do.
i like the 3000rp with the 1.4 for single stage it seems to throw it on better to me anyway, i tryed to use my hvlp nr2000 with a 1.3 and noticed with s/s the fan wasnt quite right either so i think i know what your talking about, its almost like the widest part of the fan doesnt have as much material as it should and i found myself doing the same thing..closeing up the fan a bit, so it might be something with the needle size vs air/fan adj but all in all the 3000rp’s are good guns, im deeply thinking of grabbing up one of the new 4000rp’s for base and retire the nr2000
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