Sata HVLP vs RP
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I definally think its best, to keep your solids, metallics and clears separate in different a guns ;), I got called into a shop to help out and omg I couldn’t believe the state of his guns and how they whereby cleaned after use. After I finished fixing his job I stripped, cleaned and reset all his guns to get him back on track. I don’t understand why people don’t clean and look after there guns
[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=28904]my old Walcom was a 1.2 FX HA, this has been superceded by the latter more easily serviced Genesi HTI or HTE or whatever they call thier compliant/RP versions lol
so basicly if its an all rounder and clearing gun then whatever you decide brand wise i would recomend the RP AKA compliant versions over the HVLP ,also i much prefer RP for waterbournes
Oh and check out both the Iwata WBX gold aircap as used by Aston Martin for clear and the new Ballaria which has a flatter more even pattern ,much more economicaly priced than Sata and imho better built ,i will be getting myself a Supernova soon WS version off a friend ,i have seen the results he gets from it and have used it for a small job myself so hopefully it will be a good gun for me ,they do however require a bit of user input to tune them in for faster aplication techniques,myself i like to work at a slower pace anyway ,finish being more important than speed for me which is why my Sata RP and my Walcom where both 1.2 set ups ,one it slowed them down to my pace and two i felt the finish was superior to the larger tip sizes[/quote]
Hey Artspray are the Aston martins painted manually, how do you know that they use the iwata wbx? I was looking into getting the new bellaria but couldn’t get any feedback on it so I opted to get a new 3000 RP. Do you have any experience with either of those iwata’s
[quote=”Jayson M” post=28909][quote=”smooth” post=28885]The 4000 RP is the most loved one around here. Its a little on the slow side but will lay the smoothest finish.[/quote]
Actually I like the 2000 RP the best :stoned[/quote]I thought we were talking 4000RP vs 4000hvlp. :whistle:
The thread says RP vs.HVLP …… 😉
[quote=”Xchaser” post=28917][quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=28904]my old Walcom was a 1.2 FX HA, this has been superceded by the latter more easily serviced Genesi HTI or HTE or whatever they call thier compliant/RP versions lol
so basicly if its an all rounder and clearing gun then whatever you decide brand wise i would recomend the RP AKA compliant versions over the HVLP ,also i much prefer RP for waterbournes
Oh and check out both the Iwata WBX gold aircap as used by Aston Martin for clear and the new Ballaria which has a flatter more even pattern ,much more economicaly priced than Sata and imho better built ,i will be getting myself a Supernova soon WS version off a friend ,i have seen the results he gets from it and have used it for a small job myself so hopefully it will be a good gun for me ,they do however require a bit of user input to tune them in for faster aplication techniques,myself i like to work at a slower pace anyway ,finish being more important than speed for me which is why my Sata RP and my Walcom where both 1.2 set ups ,one it slowed them down to my pace and two i felt the finish was superior to the larger tip sizes[/quote]
Hey Artspray are the Aston martins painted manually, how do you know that they use the iwata wbx? I was looking into getting the new bellaria but couldn’t get any feedback on it so I opted to get a new 3000 RP. Do you have any experience with either of those iwata’s[/quote]
the special comisions are hand painted the rest are done by machine i know becouse one my friend Damian Smyth works there as a sprayer and two i also know the Iwata Rep Phil ,the sprayers get to choose thier own clear guns and the preference is for the WBX gold cap the base however must be aplied with a Devilbiss GTI Pro and no i havent used either gun myself however the Anest Iwata main rep is a friend of mine and also MIck Neill at the custompaintstudio who is a dealer for Anest so i get a bit of tech info from those
oh and my personal base gun is a Walcom Geo HVLP ,uses only 7.5 CFM and lays silvers like a dream come true
oh and one Sata model you dont hear much about is the 1000b RP which is thier budget version ,very similar in shape to the 4000b ,by all acounts it sprays a little too well and i have heard it compars favourably with the 3000b ,it is one model i would like to try for myself
[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=28926]oh and one Sata model you dont hear much about is the 1000b RP which is thier budget version ,very similar in shape to the 4000b ,by all acounts it sprays a little too well and i have heard it compars favourably with the 3000b ,it is one model i would like to try for myself[/quote]
I must say Paul your right about the Sata jet 1000 RP I actually got one from your neck of the woods about 3 months ago it has a 1.3 setup and I only use it for clear at the moment. The only negative thing i could say about it has a narrower fan compared to the higher end sata’s but it sure puts on a real nice coat a clear! When my 3000 RP arrives I might give the 1000 a go for base. By the way Paul I always appreciated your knowledge and info you shared on the KKL. You disappeared there for a while so I’m wrapt that your on this awesome forum! :cheers
[quote=”Xchaser” post=28929][quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=28926]oh and one Sata model you dont hear much about is the 1000b RP which is thier budget version ,very similar in shape to the 4000b ,by all acounts it sprays a little too well and i have heard it compars favourably with the 3000b ,it is one model i would like to try for myself[/quote]
I must say Paul your right about the Sata jet 1000 RP I actually got one from your neck of the woods about 3 months ago it has a 1.3 setup and I only use it for clear at the moment. The only negative thing i could say about it has a narrower fan compared to the higher end sata’s but it sure puts on a real nice coat a clear! When my 3000 RP arrives I might give the 1000 a go for base. By the way Paul I always appreciated your knowledge and info you shared on the KKL. You disappeared there for a while so I’m wrapt that your on this awesome forum! :cheers[/quote]
yeh things started go a little skew over on KKL and it was detracting from my true intent which was to gain and also share usefull information and experianceno point to all the BS mate and sadly too many of those type of forums are simply biased towards certain brands ,personaly i dont care too much who made what and where as long as it doese the job but when you have people who are obvously toeing the company line to the exclusion of all reason then im out ,combine that with a little industrial sabotage and it gets to be very nasty behind the scenes 😉
Paul
I also have couple different clear guns, Iwata supernova use when I want a finer peel and for small parts like bikes, 3000rp with 1.2 & 1.3 use for everyday use, and 4000rp with 1.3 starting to become everyday clear gun now. Also all depends what kind of clear I’m spraying and what size the job is.
Also have couple base guns, touch up gun and sealer gun, single stage gun, primer gun, But then again I paint 25plus cars a week so most times all these guns get used once a day or twice lol
It also depends on the air movement in the envirmonet your painting in like a garage, cross draft booth or a full downdraft booth will make a difference on what gun works better like hvlp works better with less air movement environments then rp.
If you plan on being a hobbyist painter you should atleast try and get a base and clear gun and a cheap primer gun( even tho you should have a good primer gun )
If your doing it for a living having the right tools will pay off very quick in this biz, I look at like this if a certain tool will make the job come out better or faster then it’s worth it plus if it comes out better means you should be able to get more for the job.
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