Satajet 5000B RP
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if i remember- i sometimes just narrow the fan to uniform its edges to a perfect oval but i dont think it matters that much. I rarely pattern check my guns just listen to em and take note of what the gauge says when my ear and pattern hitting the panel is happy. That Jet B was a good gun I used it till the jet 90 took over. I think the clears changing cuz of voc laws have more to do with problems than the guns. Plus I can use any gun but how hard do you have to work for it is the question. The iwatas do atomize very very well and for collision work I can see them taking over-but for resto/complete like i do my shoulder would be hurting-so Sata for me is the stuff.
As an afterthought -It is personal style really in the end as i like 1.3 for clear no matter what gun brand I choose but some guys hate 1.3 and need that extra fluid so 1.4 works for them. I thinks its all personal preference and what you get used too. The 1.3 slows me down and gives me peel free slick finishes every time.
Good to hear bobby86 are you spraying with 1.3 or 1.4?
at what pressure and setting? glad to hear you are liking it better. Im so glad i dont have to match peel like you guys-for me the slicker the better.
Great discussion guys, thanks for sharing
Hi Smooth-are u using the 5000 rp ? More the merrier for this discussion-anything to add? I been using Sata for a long time but this is my 1st week with the 5000.
No I have one on order, but it’s nice to get some reviews and opinions on it before I try it, I too have been hearing nothing but good things about it, looks like a nice gun , thanks again
from what ive read Jason uses a Sikkens clear thats near 80 percent solid, you might ask him about it. I use metalux 9354 which is in the 60 percent range if im not mistaken-its pretty thick and goes on in1.5 coats. i think its alot like Glasurit (actually im told its basf’s old formula sold to chemspec.) nice stuff for around 220 bucks a setup. My new jobber which is a sikkens/valspar dealer has some valspar im gonna try onsale-wont hold my breath but the reducers ive tried from him are surprisingly good. good thing about running your own show=you get to pick what you spray.
I’m glad you guys got your guns working.I was reading the literature that came with the 5000rp and it says max 35 psi.Not sure why so many reps tell you 25 psi is enough for clear with that gun as it clearly is not.If you are using a 1.2 or 1.3 you will not need as much psi as a 1.4.I run mine wide open(1.4) with 33-34psi with sikkens superior 250 pack.Very happy with this setup.
I think its cuz of the competition between iwata and sata-iwatas are lower pressure ( as though that means they are better or something) for less consumption of material. But…. i use sata cuz they are fast and my arm loves em 20 minutes into a complete. does that superior 250 spray at 32 or 34 ?
sorry Jason I see i missed you answered that already. I havent sprayed any 9354 with it yet. Im pretty sure the pop i experienced this week was mostly the cheap clears fault, Im pretty sure a better clear will spray with less issues and maybe even with less psi. The LC4100 drys pretty wicked quick and is damn near impossible to run. I spoke with Barry kives this afternoon about my issues and he seemed to think i might have been hurting myself trying to put a thinner tack coat. i guess it might be counter intuitive but its what i was taught. He claims retarder might help in future but i just mix the clear and hardener with no reducer and it gets me through the heat. Wonder if some supertechs from the south would weigh in on solvent pop fixes for the southern US. Im a buffalo bodyman and havent sprayed enough down here yet.
what is your opinion of the 5000rp vs the ws 400 now? i know the atomization of the ws is good but for large jobs ive heard its slow? I like sata for the speed as well as atomization.
i cant speak from experience cause devilbiss and sata are all i ever used, but from youtube videos it seems like the ws 400 is slow. Im very surprised to hear you say the opposite. I use the 1.3 tip precisely to slow the satas down as i feel i run the panel with 1.4 instead of walk it. If i dont use a deliberately fast close arm movt the clear with every sata ive ever used seems to over build and look too fat and urethane wave seems to take over. I would actually like to demo a ws but no one does that for small folks any more. my 4000 rp i would catagorize as slower but that was what it seems they were going for- slow and soft spray to compete with iwata. It needed a 1.4 tip to speed up so i bought both. I am a real gun whore so who knows maybe a ws400 is in my future. Is yours the HD?
i appreciate your response. Very interesting-i must have let a preconceived notion about iwata keep me from trying em. Ill be saving my pennys for a new one. Can never have too many spray guns. Thanks again.
Look good bobby nice shine
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