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  • MoCoke
    December 3, 2009 at 4:37 am #17411

    hey everyone,

    Got a bit of a boo boo here, i have new car that was keyed all over, a few dents here and there but overall the paint is in good condition. originally i was planning to sand with 400 grit, seal, color, and clear. however, the color is beyond expensive, its a red, so plan B is to repair the dents, feather sand the scratch areas and prime those sole areas. the rest of the car i was thinking scuffing with a gray scuff bad and blend the color in to the good areas then clear the whole car. what do u guys think. is gray scotch pad good enough? for color and clear without any sealer? any recommendations as far as products and procedures? thanks

    Richard
    December 3, 2009 at 4:51 am #17412

    Yep, but get some Scuff it compound.
    The stuff cuts scuffing times in half, and it cleans the surface at the same time. Can’t go wrong.

    David Clark
    December 3, 2009 at 7:11 am #17419

    I use 800 DA on the blend areas and grey scuff all the edges. It will knock all the factory orange peel out of it.

    jackcarlson
    December 3, 2009 at 7:56 am #17420

    ditto 😉

    Kyle
    December 3, 2009 at 8:37 am #17421

    yep 800 DA. I like running a DA better than scuffing the whole thing with grey.

    nick
    December 3, 2009 at 3:07 pm #17423

    I like Mirka’s polar star p1000 discs, i have also used various makes of 800 dics and they do the job fine as well.

    The reason i like mirka’s polar star range is they seem to last very well, one disc will do a medium sized panel no problem. The only thing i would recomend when using fine discs such as 800-1000 give the panel a good pre-clean before sanding or you will go through multiple disc’s

    I now use a completely dry sanding system dont use water at all

    Apart from flatting nib’s in clear i have tried many dry sanding arrangments, and have found 2500 wet and dry paper very hard to beat.

    Andy Taylor
    December 4, 2009 at 2:17 am #17442

    I also go the DA route, but use the Mirka Q-Silver discs, then go around the edges with an Abralon foam backed pad dampened with some solvent based W&G remover.

    MoCoke
    December 4, 2009 at 5:42 am #17455

    thanks for the input everyone, but if i use 800 grit, sand scratches wont be visible after i clear?

    David Clark
    December 4, 2009 at 8:29 am #17469

    Nope no worries with the 800. I can even clear over 600 DA.

    nick
    December 4, 2009 at 12:31 pm #17470

    [b]Andy T wrote:[/b]
    [quote] then go around the edges with an Abralon foam backed pad dampened with some solvent based W&G remover.[/quote]

    Have you tried the p500 gold flex for the edges it is also foam backed
    and a box of this last’s for ages you can get 800 as well

    But 500 is no problem on all colours whem=n we had the mirka system demo, that is what they recomended for flatting edges etc prior to basecoat application

    [img]http://www.restexpress.co.uk/acatalog/15-113.jpg[/img]

    Andy Taylor
    December 4, 2009 at 3:06 pm #17472

    Yes, I’ve got the 500 & 800’s 🙂 I’ll use them on a panel that’s going to be based, but not a blend panel. They’d probably be ok like you say, but with some of the Jap cars I get in (particularly Nissan) one good rub with one of those and you can be through the clear to the base, then you’re blending yet another panel :blink:

    I don’t suppose it was Neil Bennett that did your demo was it? I know he did the north area, but not sure he came up quite as far as you, so it could have been Andy. Great guy Neil. He came to work for me for a bit after leaving Mirka, but he’s now gone back to a tech sales job with U-Pol.

    nick
    December 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm #17474

    [b]Andy T wrote:[/b]
    [quote]Yes, I’ve got the 500 & 800’s 🙂 I’ll use them on a panel that’s going to be based, but not a blend panel. They’d probably be ok like you say, but with some of the Jap cars I get in (particularly Nissan) one good rub with one of those and you can be through the clear to the base, then you’re blending yet another panel :blink:

    I don’t suppose it was Neil Bennett that did your demo was it? I know he did the north area, but not sure he came up quite as far as you, so it could have been Andy. Great guy Neil. He came to work for me for a bit after leaving Mirka, but he’s now gone back to a tech sales job with U-Pol.[/quote]

    Ah sorry lost the thread a little no i dont use them on the blend panel, usually just go over the blend panel with the polarstar 1000 disc the grey scotch the edges with waterborne degreaser.

    No never met Neil Bennet, it was a guy called Stuart Denholm that did the demo for us.

    Yea i know what you mean about the Jap stuff, suzuki grand vitara older style lower plastics, you can scotch brite right through the clearcoat if you are not carefull lol

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