Sikkens abp vs ppg water
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Supposed to be talking to the ppg rep next week about our shop switching to water , we are currently spraying Sikkens abp and I am real happy with what we have. We are spraying out of two old cross flow booths with no air makeup unit and a bare bones air supply system. Nothing real fancy but it works.
Basically what my question is, for those that have been in the same position, would you do it again? What upgrades are necessary in order to make water work in our shop? And how user freindly is the ppg system?Thanks, Chuck
I haven’t sprayed PPG envirobase but I have herad it is a great system.But I have to ask if you are happy with sikkens why wouldn’t you look at autowave???
If we change really isn’t up to me, it’s more or a financial decision from the powers to be. If it was really up to me I would stick to the current system or maybe even switch to the Lesonal line. I know both of those can perform well in our shop and I can get predictable results. I am just not really sure that our shop is really set up to spray water. And I really don’t want some salesman trying to put band aids on things and then we get stuck with a system that won’t perform well.
I have never sprayed water and don’t really know enough about it to talk educated about it. But I know every company will try to wow you about why changing to them will be best for you. We have a few shops in our area that spray ppg and I haven’t heard anything bad about it and anyone that I talk to that sprays waterborne says that they wouldn’t go back to solvent. So what upgrades would I really need in order to make it work. And how does water perform in cold weather? In the winter it really be a struggle to keep the building up to a decent temp.Chuck
Not sure how cold it gets where you are but up here you need an air make up to keep a consistent temp(70-75)A cross flow will work fine as long as it has decent airflow(10,000cfm) and some heat.You can get away with portable blowers,thats all we have and we can still have good production.You will pay a little more for materials and in non perfect environment it could slow up production a bit.Honestly I think you would be better off switching to lesonal sb,decent color match and it will work for your environment,just my 2 cents.
[quote=”Jayson M” post=32145]Not sure how cold it gets where you are but up here you need an air make up to keep a consistent temp(70-75)A cross flow will work fine as long as it has decent airflow(10,000cfm) and some heat.You can get away with portable blowers,thats all we have and we can still have good production.You will pay a little more for materials and in non perfect environment it could slow up production a bit.Honestly I think you would be better off switching to lesonal sb,decent color match and it will work for your environment,just my 2 cents.[/quote]
I have sprayed PPGs waterborne. It’s been discussed many times on this forum and everyone seems to like it.
I agree with Jayson, if I were to summarize the only minimal requirements to go from solvent to water, it would be just 2 things: heated booth and blowers. Everything else will work good. It’s not too hard to figure out how to use, especially the Envirobase. Very user friendly.
Without heat and good airflow it can be miserably slow in all water base lines. I would suggest sticking to any solvent line if heating is not an option…especially if you are in a humid climate.
I spray PPG water.Sounds like your in a very similar spraying enviroment as me, i spray in a homemade crossflow booth but i have plenty of heat, the blowers will get the job done so dont worry about it. PPG has brought out an additive you can add to the base to help it dry quicker and make it more durable to rock chipping on front spoilers,bumpers and hoods, it great stuff PN 935-1250 in aquabase plus. I think after you give it an honest chance you will love it, color matches are great drys quickly, blends out nice. I originally thought my rep was full of crap too when he first walked in the door with this system but after a while i was sold and absolutly love it. Only thing i would suggest is the go with the Nexa Aquabase system instead of enviro, you get better bang for your buck.
Besides air flow and heat, have the PPG rep check the humidity in the air lines.
The air needs to be very dry and clean. Much more so than with solvent.Everyone is right on with the heat. If you are in a humid summer climate with a cross flow booth it could be slow drying. Get your rep to let you try it first,and make sure you like it before you commit.
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