Sikkens HS+ 2 pack questions.
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Hey everyone I’ve been having some problems getting this clear to lay out nice without a ton of peel. Im spraying with a tekna prolite using the te20 cap and 1.4. I’ve been toying around with air pressure and I just can’t seen to find a sweet spot with this clear, I’ve gone from 18 psi to 25. Clear is going over autobase+ using the 100:80 mix ratio.
I’ve been spraying sikkens for about 5 years, mainly used ac3 but also dabbled with autoclear PC for a little while as well. So far im stumped, im not looking for a complete glass look I would just like to be able to look down the side of the car and not see damn peel that looks worse than factory, hell I’d be content with just a factory look.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
October 6, 2012 at 10:00 am #38499Try bumping up the pressure to 28-30 psi and move in closer.I really liked a first gen rp with a 1.4 for HS+.What are you using for hardener and activator?A slower mix will go on in thinner wetter coats which will drastically cut down on texture on the sides.
[quote=”Jayson M” post=27624]Try bumping up the pressure to 28-30 psi and move in closer.I really liked a first gen rp with a 1.4 for HS+.What are you using for hardener and activator?A slower mix will go on in thinner wetter coats which will drastically cut down on texture on the sides.[/quote]
HS+ 2 pack only has 1 hardner, and has a slow and fast clear, 2:1 mix with the MPU machine.
Just recently started mixing in a little but of fast with the slow as booth temps have finally gotten into the low 80’s high 70’s.
October 6, 2012 at 10:16 am #38501Sorry man never used the 2 pack,I thought you were talking about the regular HS+.
October 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm #38503Had a similar issue when switching to the dekups system on my Tekna copper. Raising the air pressure to 26-28 resolved this issue.
October 7, 2012 at 3:01 am #38509I’m still thinking bumping up the pressure,moving in nice and tight,75% overlap and move fast,this technique works with all sikkens products 😉
Hk p30 Hello. I like the USP better but anyway, I use the same setup as you with the same clear. imho the prolite should be set at 26 to 30 psi for clear at a distance of 4 inchs maybe even closer if you can handle it. This usally creates and acceptable oe finish. Of couarse depending on manufactor. If this dosnt work I have used 35 to 38psi at 4 inchs with no air pattern spliting. Also this does not seem to effect material consumtion that much. But it does create a flat finish. I like 2 pack better than the standard version but you do lose a little control particularly in the middle temps. I feel fast clear is two fast to mix with the slow at a rate of 1 to 1 to produce a med speed clear. I like 75 % slow to 25% fast. Even 90% to 10% can work. Just my opinion though. 2 pack also seems to like faster flash times for larger surface areas, if you can get away with it. Again just my opinion. Hope this helps.
October 7, 2012 at 6:23 am #38514What is the advantage of using the two pack version over the regular version?
[quote=”Underpaid Painter” post=27639]What is the advantage of using the two pack version over the regular version?[/quote]
If your using the MPU machine with the 2 pack you get a really nice workout with your dominant arm , but the main advantage I see it for is making up that last 2 ounces to finish the bottom of a door, the machine makes real quick work for that. The reps have said that it allows for more precise chemistry yielding a better looking finish. That I can’t dent the gloss level with this stuff is amazing, and I still haven’t seen a car dye back yet, using it for about 5 months with an average of 6-8 cars through the booth a day.
I’ve been using the 2 Pack with the slow package. My gun set up is 1.3 with the TE20 cap at 26 psi. Gun distance is 4-5 inches with about 75% overlap. The results I am getting are very favorable and dries faster than you would think. With the slow package, the clear wets up real easy which allows me to move a bit faster, which then allows me to put on a thinner but smoother coat. I still get the desired film thickness required for this clear.
When i tried the 1.4, the material delivery was too fast and fat and had to paint at a faster rate than i like.Just my opinion with the ProLite, which I like very much for clear and basecoat. But with Basecoat,I use a 1.4 tip.
I’ve been using the 2 Pack with the slow package. My gun set up is 1.3 with the TE20 cap at 26 psi. Gun distance is 4-5 inches with about 75% overlap. The results I am getting are very favorable and dries faster than you would think. With the slow package, the clear wets up real easy which allows me to move a bit faster, which then allows me to put on a thinner but smoother coat. I still get the desired film thickness required for this clear.
When i tried the 1.4, the material delivery was too fast and fat and had to paint at a faster rate than i like.Just my opinion with the ProLite, which I like very much for clear and basecoat. But with Basecoat,I use a 1.4 tip.
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