Sikkens
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Ok so I am changing jobs. Wednesday will be my first day on the new job. Its a ford toyota dealer. So I will be spraying sikkens and will need some advice. I have done a little research about the product and have found it to be a little bit more complex than sherwin. I will be spraying mostly used cars. Bumper covers and single pannels. So whats the difference in the XP and standard hardners? What are the temp ranges for the Std, med and rapid activators? What would be the best combo for spraying these kind of jobs?
any input would be great!i hate ta say this but if you can make Sherwin work its gonna be an easy transition for ya 😉 trust me sometimes i hate our system best of luck ta you :cheer:
The difference between XP and standard hardener is speed and mixing ratio.The xp hardener replaced the standard hardener and it is only used in autoclear3 and it mixes 100:33:50 and if ya use the right stir stick it is easy,I forget the #.If all you are doing is 1-2 panels all I would use is the xp hardener and rapid activator.If you are doing a hood or a side I would use medium activator,rapid will die off a bit on a horizontal surface so you need to be careful.I would only use standard activator on a complete or if the temp was passed 80 degrees when doing a side.You can speed it up by adding some accelerator(extra top)to help kick it over.If you have any other questions let me know I have used this system for years and know it inside out.Good luck.When shooting sikkens clears I like to let the first coat set up so I can touch itand it is slightly tacky just passed stringy,this is a good way to avoid runs.
[b]bondomerchant wrote:[/b]
[quote]i hate ta say this but if you can make Sherwin work its gonna be an easy transition for ya 😉 trust me sometimes i hate our system best of luck ta you :cheer:[/quote]Yeah I have been spraying sherwin for eight years now. I guess you could say I can make it work B) I hope the sikkens will be a good transition!
Thanks Jayson. I will mostly be spraying in a semi down draft with infa-red heat, no forced air heat. So if I am doing a fender or a bumper and I use XP hardner, rapid activator with extra top, how fast is it going to be? how soon can it be polished?
Not to sure about that one,maybe 30-mins to a couple of hrs,never been in that situation.We have an air make up and a bake cycle so I guess you will have to experiment :unsure: Careful with the accelerator in rapid as it can kill the shine if you are not careful.I was never a fan of autoclear 3,we use HS+ clear and a couple of others but it works.
Yeah, I guess I will just have to expirement with it. Im not sure why this shop uses the autoclear 3? So the Xp hardner is a replacement for the standard hardner? Is the standard hardner not even an option now? So if I were to do a whole side or a front end, Xp hardner and med activator would be the way to go? Sorry for all the questions :wak I would just like to have a head start on things when I get there.
One thing I do know is that soon we will be going to autowave so autoclear 3 may be on its way out anyway.As far as I know the standard hardener is no more.I would try the medium on a side but I’m not sure how warm your booth will be without an air makeup,if you can keep a consistent 70-75 degrees then yes.Ac3 can’t be used over autowave and it is on its way out here in Canada.If you are changing to autowave and it gets cold where you are you absolutely have to have an air-makeup for your booth.
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